Had a wonderful morning ride with some newbies and when I went out in my car later, was at the roundabout close to my home and saw a cruiser on its side, a guy on the road about 3 metres from the entrance to the roundabout. Gathering from the account of the people there, it seems to me that he had entered into the roundabout too fast, the car in front was not going as fast and he clipped the car just in front and went down (lowside). The cruiser looked ok but his left leg was in a lot of pain. He had taken his helmet off, his normal jeans were ripped open at the fly, he was wearing ankle socks and sneakers, gloves (knitted work gloves) were taken off and he was in a t-shirt under a long-sleeved hoodie. Most of the pain appears to be on his ankle, and his leg didn't look broken, but the amount of pain can suggest something else? A fire-truck happened to be on the scene, so I didn't think I could help anymore and got out of the way of the traffic. On my short trip back home from the scene, I thought to myself, would ATGATT have helped? Then there was a guy on a Aprilia sports bike (nice one too) in almost ATGATT but no gloves. I know I do ATGATT but I think everyone can make their own decisions, I don't want to shove my beliefs down anyone's throat. To me, boots with ankle protection is so important and I have recently started wearing knee armour under my kevlar jeans (suprisingly comfy) after dropping my bike and knocking my knee on the ground. Flesh may be intact but joints can still shatter. Definitely will be wearing my leather pants on future rides too (even though the hip pads are so unflattering!).