hey guys it's that time of the year coming again when it's real "pleasant" to ride. got caught in yesterdays storm. saturated is to say nothing about all of my gear. start seriously thinking about investing some cash in winter pants. my budget is pretty tight and i would like to ask for some advice. the choices are dririder nordic4 vs agv tour fabric pant. both pretty much the same price. would greatly appreciate any suggestions or any other alternatives. thanks.