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Why we must speak up..

Discussion in 'General Motorcycling Discussion' started by BulletProof, Nov 22, 2010.

  1. Saw this in another forum... it spoke volumes to me..

    "In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.

    Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up."

    -- by Martin Niemöller, prominent German anti-Nazi theologian and Lutheran pastor, best known as the author of the poem First they came...

    "In the USA they came first for the motorcycles with loud pipes, and I didn't speak up because I don't have loud pipes.

    Then they came for the motorcycles with no turn signals or mirrors, and I didn't speak up because I have turn signals and mirrors.

    Then they came for the motorcycles with aftermarket equipment, and I didn't speak up because my bike is stock.

    Then they came for the motorcycle riders with no helmets, and I didn't speak up because I wear a helmet.

    Then they came for all the other motorcycles and riders, and by that time no one was left to speak up."
  2. been searching for that first quote for AGES. thank you.
  3. Classic beige cardi wearing scenario... the rules keep tightening until even the beige cardi's get caught up.
  4. lol comparing it to ww2 makes it look like a joke but it is true
  5. I wonder what things will be like 50 years from now...

    Hell, 50 years ago (not that I was around), but iirc (from things i've read), you got a license from the cop shop by driving up the road n back, no seatbelts or seatbelt laws, and i'm sure many other lax things....

    If anyone is paying attention to the new OH&S laws that are coming in to affect, you'll see where it's starting..... It just goes too far sometimes!
  6. Even 33 years ago.

    (I got my motorcycle licence in 1977 just by riding to the corner and back. The officer didn't even watch the whole ride. He just went inside and completed the paperwork.)
  7. I've heard similar things. To be honest seeing the current nanny state i give it 20 years till they ban us riding bikes altogether. "its too dangerous for your own safety!" - This shit I would not at all be surprised by one day. One day I'll need to put on full protective gear to get in the car to drive to work "for my own safety" its getting to the point of insanity.

    Children not allowed to hug in playgrounds 'inappropriate physical contact' on TT slams this home.

    If it ever goes to this think ill move to Russia and buy a thou :)
  8. The safety stuff is a good thing. The last point wont ever happen especially with the hippy environmentalist gaining prominence in politics/society.
  9. I don't disagree with safety. I just feel that it should be my choice.
  10. I wish them the best of luck trying to get the hundreds of thousands of motorcyclists in australia off the road without a fight/total uprising.

    Not to mention the money it brings into the economy/all the small business's capitalising on services/repairs/gear/accessories/etc etc etc
    Then there is the snack shops/cafe's along popular motorcycle routes/towns that pretty much survive on our business.
    Then theres the motogp/local race events that bring millions into victoria's economy alone every year.
    Then theres the millions of dollars of fines the police force extorts from us on a yearly basis.

    Try it, I dare them, we support this country :)

    As for the safety restrictions, seriously how many of us DON'T put aftermarket exhausts/accessories just because the plod tell us not to?

    And who in their right mind would choose NOT to wear a helmet? (except harley riders), most 'real' motorcyclists love their helmets for more reasons then safety.
  11. #11 spawn, Nov 23, 2010
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 24, 2015
    Well they're doing a great job up in the spurs with their harassment campaign!
  12. You know a thread is good when Godwin's Law is invoked in the first post ...

    In a society where the government pays for your healthcare when you throw your bike down the road, and I indirectly pay for that healthcare, it is perfectly reasonable to expect that certain requirements be made to potentially reduce the severity of the medical care you might need in the event you do actually throw your bike down the road and you with it.

    I fully support your right to choose, however, and if there was an option for people to not wear helmets in return for having to pay their own medical bills, I'd fully support that.
  13. You had me right up to your last sentence, and it turned to dribble.

    Real motorcylists love their helmets for more reasons than safety. Cmon, really, you have to be joking.
  14. I would. Time place and circumstance come into it, but I have done so on many occasions.

    And, yes, I have been a "real" motorcyclist since many on this forum were in nappies.
  15. Call me when we see serious legislation to curb the 45,000 sports injuries per year that require hospital attention. Bike injuries are but a drop in the ocean of avoidable medical costs.
  16. Actually...

    If you look more closely at the socialist state we are in, there are plenty of examples of how the state is working to influence the community attitude to motorcycling. First of all, remove the ability of youngsters to follow their dads riding dirt bikes in off road competition or even around the state forests. Then make it that only adults can get licenses. Then make it very expensive to get a license. Then make sure no one can legally ride a bike without the full mudguard extension. Now take away all this interest from a young age and pretty soon there will only be old farts riding around in a diminishing industry. With less bikes sold there will be less choice, and more expense. Now add in having to wear bulky mandated expensive safety gear dolled up like a clown in fluro whilst at the same time the state based insurance company ensuring car drivers hate riders but not educate them to look for them in the first place. And make the roads unsafe with more wire rope barriers everywhere. Add overbearing enforcement and harassment for anyone who dares to ride and soon there will be no one left to make a huge stink when they decide for our own good that motorcycles do not fit in a vision zero fatality regime.
  17. So summary to date we should all stand united except Harley owners, those that dont have health care or those who dont want to wear helmets. Conspiracy theorists are a seperate line it seems.
  18. Even cars don't fit into vision zero! Seriously, this nanny state bullshit makes me want to choke beige cardi ****tards on their own ear hair. sigh.
  19. you really should'nt be hugging children in playgrounds though
  20. Ditto.

    Unfortunately they are likely to be out of them when the likes of us are back wearing them again, Pat.