I was thinking about dropping bikes the other day (as you do). When I first started riding I made a habit of it (you learnt on 50cc scooters in Pommie-land) but these days it does not happen very much (touch wood). In theory it is because I'm a more experienced rider but maybe there is more to it than that :?: I was thinking maybe it's because my current bike would cost lots to fix up if it went for a minor slide whereas with my crappy little learner bikes it wouldn't cost much (if anything) to get back on the road. Or maybe it's because I know it will hurt big-time if I fall off my 600 whereas my first couple of bikes were so damn slow it was like falling off a pushy So what's eveyone else's excuse? Old and cautious? Wise and learned? A big girls blouse?