I'm part of a forum for Australian reptile owners, and there has been a discussion about bike riding going on that started yesterday. It was about a rider who scraped a footpeg for the first time, then this comment appeared: It then started descending into ranting about people who are irresponsible on bikes but the attitude about it made me sick. Some one tried to pull him up a bit: but he wasn't having that: Here was my simple reply about the 'temporary Australian' comment: All human life is temporary, so there isn't much point in calling anyone a temporary Australian just because they ride a bike. I've had a good look around motorcycle forums and asked questions and there are quite a few people who have ridden for decades, it isn't necessarily an activity that includes certain death, that's a sensationalistic way to look at it. The ones who do stupid things get killed at a higher rate but the same can be said for those who do stupid things in cars. This was all he said back: I also wanted to question him about his comment about not riding because he 'has a brain': You don't ride a bike because you have a brain? I hope you're not trying to imply that all bike riders are stupid because we certainly aren't. There are some idiots who ride bikes and do stupid things, but we're not all like that and shouldn't all be called idiots who don't value our lives. I certainly value mine which is why I'm a careful rider. Your attitude about getting satisfaction from bike riders getting hurt or killed from doing stupid things is a bit disturbing. Have you ever known someone who died being stupid on a bike? I did and I certainly didn't get any pleasure from knowing he was dead... mainly because I saw how much it hurt his family. Plus I have a heart. Here was the reply: Another person of a similar attitude popped up: I challenged that 90% garbage: Absolute load of crap. I don't know ANY bikers who trust anyone in a car to keep them safe. Very bad exaggeration! Interesting, I didn't know that 100% of bikers rode there, and I also didn't know that this guy sat and watched them all day everyday to come to the conclusion that 90% of them rely on others for their safety. HAHAHAHAHA!!! Not my comment, but another bikers: Lots of facepalm in there! Plenty of misconceptions too. ](*,) I haven't met anyone like this in person before, which is probably a good thing... I guess we can probably thank the press for a lot of these generalisations.