In connection with the thread about a rider's first ride in the rain, I want to raise a related issue. I want some bright spark to design a helmet like the one I had when I first started riding. I think it was a Nolan. It had the visor completely inset into the helmet body when it was closed. What I mean by this is that the top edge of the visor was flush with the helmet body when the visor was fully closed. This meant that water couldn't run down the INSIDE of the visor and obscure your vision, like all helmets these days seem to do. If enough water gets down there (and it always seems to), then no amount of wiping the outside of the visor makes any difference. And if the rain is really heavy, the water from the inside of the visor flings off onto my glasses and makes visibility even worse. I've tried sticking some duct tape along the top edge and trying to seal the gap that way but, if you put enough there to do it, it stops the visor from closing completely. I've tried gluing some foam rubber along the inside of the top edge but it only works until the foam becomes saturated (not very long) and then it starts happening again. I'd have thought that, in the interest of keeping rain off the inside of the visor AND of aerodynamics, a visor that sits inside a rebate in the helmet all around its perimeter would be as obvious as the (sometimes) obscured nose on the front of my face. Or does such a helmet exist already?