Taken from this post https://netrider.net.au/forums/showpost.php?p=2036581&postcount=1 Taken from this thread https://netrider.net.au/forums/showthread.php?t=116363 I recently had the opportunity to speak with someone about this accident the other day (they are a rock solid source so don't ask) and there are some things about this one in particular that I wish to bring to your attention. It turns out that the 'rider' wasn't a rider at all. By the account given to me it was a man who at this stage was allegedly (I haven't seen a coroners report) chemically impaired, well let's call a spade a spade he was stoned. He wasn't on a motorcycle by any rider's definition he was on a pocket bike without motorcycle gear on (that's a key indicator he isn't a rider) He rode across the path of the oncoming vehicle without warning causing the head on collision. The ute left the road and flipped upside down trapping the driver and his baby he had onboard. Thankfully the baby wasn't injured although the driver received minor cuts and abrasions. My heart goes out to the driver as I'd hate to be upside down in a vehicle with my child in there with me. enough said. Now what i don't know is whether this 'rider' holds or ever held a motorcycle license, and quite frankly it's beside the point. There is absolutely no connection between this guy and motorcycle riding, and I'm insulted to find him being included in our statistics. You've got a problem Vicroads/Vicpol, a very big problem that needs to come to an end. I've also had the chance to speak with one of your frontline about what constitutes a 'motorcycle'. He's taken the time to study the varying definitions as laid out in the legislation so he knows when the law's being broken. He tried to explain the differences between motorcycle, scooter, and moped, and he struggled to make sense of it and explain it. Vicpol/Vicroads you've got a f.ucking cheek telling riders they're accountable for their part in the roadtoll when you wankers wont be held accountable for your statistics you use against us. You've been called on it enough times now, anti up or f.uck off.