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[Vic] Thursdays Mystery ride/coffee, St.Kilda

Discussion in 'VIC' started by Seany, Aug 24, 2006.

  1. Mystery ride and coffee goes ahead every thursday, rain, hail or shine. It involves a lovely ride planned with coffee at un undisclosed but convenient location not far from the city.


    We meet at the BP servo on Beach Rd St.Kilda at 7:00pm for a 7:30pm departure. :)

    This event is open to everyone. The person in the ride leader position takes that job knowing that learners may turn up and plans the route accordingly. The tail end charlie (TEC) rides at the very back and knows it will be a slow ride for them. They take the role willingly and there is abosolutely no reason for learners to feel they're holding someone up. TEC is there to help and doesn't care how slow you ride. :)

    A word of advice to learners..., Because the ride is open to all, it often involves highly experienced riders who ride at a pace that might seem very fast. This however, should not concern you. The TEC will always stay at the back and look after you. :) We do ask that you remember being a learner means you are not as fast as a rider with 5+ years experience, and therefore you should never push your limits trying to keep up. We want every rider to ride within their own limits and at their own pace. There is no reason to feel that you will be a burden and there is no glory in being a fast rider. We are a friendly group and are genuinely pleased that you came to ride with us, so we do not want you to risk getting hurt due to unwarranted insecurities. :)

    Corner Marking!

    On a group ride the main tool for group navigation is the process known as Corner Marking.

    The lead rider is responsible for knowing the route to be taken by the group. On mystery rides, only the lead rider knows the destination and route so Conermarking is essential.

    Whenever a turn is made at an intersection, that turn needs to be marked so all riders in the group know to take that turn to avoid getting lost. Sometimes a Cornermarker will be left at a point where no turn is made but the direction is unclear (eg. a 3 point or odd shaped roundabout. If there is no corner marker, the riders must assume the ride continues straight according to legaly defined terms rather than actual direction (put simply, as the line markings dictate).

    When the ride leader wants to make a turn he/she will indicate that turn. The leader will also point to a spot on the LEFT hand side of the road.

    The rider directly behind the ride leader (ie, the corner marker) stops in that spot on the LEFT hand side of the road and indicates in the direction the ride leader traveled. If leader goes right, indicate right and vice versa.

    The Corner marker must maintain that position with the indicator on until ALL riders have past through the turn. This may take 5mins or 5 hrs, it doesn't matter. You will NOT be left behind. If you are left behind the ride leader will stop the group and go back for you.

    The corner marker will know when ALL bikes have passed when the Tail End bike signals that no more bikes are comming. This signal will be honking the horn, waving and flashing high beams. At this point, let the tail end through, then make the turn and overtake TE. Job well done. :)

    Corner Marking is easy and should not be a stressful job. It just requires patience and consentration. If you do not want to corner mark, ride at the back of the group to avoid it. Rule of thumb is to keep at least 2 bikes between yourself and the ride leader to avoid getting that position. If this is your 1st group ride, try to avoid marking corners until you've seen thee process work.

    Remember that extra concentration may be required in town to make sure the bike you see is correctly identified as Tail End. Traffic lights and traffic can break the group and there could be significant gaps between small groups of riers. Other bikes not involved in the ride may also give you a friendly wave. Be aware of what type of bike Tail End is riding and if you don't get a toot and a flash stay where you are.

    Nb. if you are riding in the group, please don't confuse the Corner Marker by giving them a 'thank you' wave. If they think you are tail end, it will cause caos. Please thank them at the end of the ride. :)


    It is absolutely a requirement that a proper ride brief be given before the ride starts. This may be done my the ride leader or if you're not the public speaking type then a nominated spokesperson may do it for you.

    The ride brief must include a description of the cornermarking process. The TEC must also be clearly pointed out with their bike so corner markers know NOT to leave the corner until TEC honks their horn at them.

    It's also helpful to provide information of any hazards you expect, U-turns or corners that can't be marked for safety reasons. A reminder to ride safe and give each other plenty of space is also worth putting in the brief. :)

    Slow Learners

    If you have any questions about the ride, corner marking or the ride leaders job (cause we'd like you to have a go at everything), please do not hesitate to ask. Myself and Uncle Bren have all the patience in the world and can happily answer most questions a thousand times. The Ride leader will also be able to answer questions about their rides. :grin:

  2. Bummer I wont be there :( gotta work late, then got some study to catch up on... :(

    Had busy week this week for some reason :wink:

    Am sure you lot'll have fun...i'll try and make one thursday soon... :grin:
  3. I assume by your posting time you mean 7:30PM or 19:30?
  4. Yep, 7:30PM departure. :oops: :LOL:

    I did have a link to the original Thursday coffee thread but it vanished. There's more info there if you want to have a look. :grin:
  5. I wont make it either mate. :(

    Hope all goes well and people enjoy the ride :grin:
  6. :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
  7. Pants! :( Why not?? Too chicken eh?? To scared to ride on the road are ya??? eh??? Or do you just think you're too :cool: for us?? :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
  8. Where abouts is this bp on marina beach? beach road not far off from station pier ?
  9. Station Pier is more Port Melbourne. St Kilda marina is closer to Luna Park. You would pass Luna Park (on your left) if you were coming from Station Pier on your way to St Kilda Marina (on your right). :)
  10. No, Station pier is Port Melboune. St Kilda is a little futher east from there. The St. Kilda Marina is a Km or 2 away from the city from Fitzroy St on Beach rd. There is a BP service staion there. :)

    I think technically speaking, the St Kilda Marina actually had an "Elwood" address so we're talking about the east side of St K. You'd need to go right through St. K if you were comming from Port Melb. :wink:

    The servo itself stands out like a sore thumb. You can't miss it. :)
  11. Mate, Im far to :cool: for you lot, but this time I have another appointment that cant be missed ;)

    Im sure there are heaps of netriders you can ask for directions, just be careful which one you ask ;) :grin: :grin:
  12. I reckon someone is going for their P's :wink:
  13. No, nothing that exciting unfortunatly. :roll:
  14. Yeah i know where that is, its where i buy my bait from when i go fishing.... if the weather clears up ill be there.
  15. Hey Sean, I need to scrub in a new tyre, you think I should come along?

    Doesn't look too wet outside. I may be sitting next to charlie tho.
  16. I have the sniffles... I might meet you at the destination point if I end up in the city?
  17. Yeah, you'll be fine. We're not going to be racing around (I don't hit speeds anything like what Marisa does) It'll be a fairly lesuirely cruise (especially in this weather). :)

    I have Arrowmax on my bike so if anyone's going to be sliding off the road, it'll most likely be me. :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
  18. Who are the sniffles and what kind of ransom are you demanding? :shock: :?
  19. I just road home from the city to moorabbin
    Not fun in the rain
    might try next week :cry: