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Used Motorcycles - Kilometres Too High?

Discussion in 'General Motorcycling Discussion' started by larthom, Jul 24, 2012.

  1. Hey folks,

    I spent quite some time Googling and searching the Netrider forums to no avail, so I thought I may as well start a thread to see what knowledge can be bestowed upon me!

    Short back-story: I'm currently in the market to buy my first "big boys bike", a Yamaha R1 (2009-2011).

    My question: Is there a rule of thumb or some general guideline as to the amount of kilometres that would be considered "ideal" and "too high" for this kind of motorcycle? For example: a 2009 Yamaha R1 with 20,000kms - would this be an alright example for me to perhaps purchase? Or would I best steer clear of anything with 20,000km+ on the odometer?

    Thanks in advance for your wisdom guys, much appreciated.
  2. If it's been looked after, 20,000 km is barely run-in.

    If it hasn't, it was probably rooted a week after leaving the showroom.

    Service history and rider behaviour are infinitely more important than mileage for pretty much any modern bike until you get towards 100,000.
  3. That's very reasonable advice Pat, thanks for the input. When it comes to private sales this will be useful, though it might prove tricky if I'm looking to snatch one up from a dealership (used). A complete service history might be (as you mentioned) a good way of getting some insight into just what condition the motorcycle is in, internally.

    I am curious also now that I think of it as to just how sturdy/reliable these newer Yamaha R1 crossplane engines are, and whether I can in fact expect to be riding this motorcycle when it ticks over the 100,000km mark (provided I haven't sold before then).
  4. 20,000 km is just an oil change interval, even for a Yamaha.
  5. I change my oil every 6000km. Got 50 000 on her now & use fully Synth
  6. According to Shannons, typical motorcycle use is 8000km/yr. That means a lot of people don't use their bike like it's meant to be used!

    Mines pushing 70000km and still pulls harder than a 13yo with dad's porno collection.

    Totally agree with Pat, how a bike is used and maintained says more than kilometres.
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  7. Just beware of very low K freshly registered bikes - some have had their road gear stripped off and put in the shed and then spent their lives as trackies before being sold in road gear again. You'll need to go off 'the vibe' as no pre-purchase inspection will tell you that it has gone 297 at eastern creek
  8. So true toadcat. Still have mine on Bike Sales and the few calls I got the guys said they found another 09 with only 2000km or less even and at the same price as mine. Well I know which one I'd be buying but there is the scepticism or unsurety of why their bikes have only got 2000k and mine has 24000km.
  9. With something like an R1 total mileage is less important than the mileage difference between the front and rear wheels ;)
  10. Take the bike to a mechanic to look over or bring one with you, or even someone who knows their way around the "2 wheel death trap". I totally agree on the vibe, you can generally sense someone has looked after a bike when they can describe the bike passionately and know it's in and outs.
  11. Yeh, he's back :)
  12. Thanks for all your advise guys - it will prove invaluable I'm sure. Bottom line is I'll need to keep a keen eye out for "tell-tale" signs when inspecting each example. Kilometres evidently are not as conclusive as other details when determining how thrashed each motorcycle may have been with it's previous owner.

    Also, I lost my head laughing at this little analogy below by robsalvv hahaha =D>

  13. KM's really mean nothing, the bike could have 40000km and be treated like gold where as a 20000km one could have been beaten and thrashed around. An inspection and certain questions will tell you what you need (I am assuming you know a bit about bikes and what wears the fastest).
  14. My current bike, formerly hornet's Hornet, was sold to me with something like 170,000km on it.

    I wouldn't know if I hadn't been told... No rattles, solid, few bits of wear and tear and a little idle problem but km shouldn't scare you off. Look for movement in bearings and engine noise. If you want a proper test on the health of the engine send a sample of engine oil to an analytical lab.
  15. This is something I have wondered too. At what stage do you need to start looking at doing major replacement work to an engine.
  16. Its a R1 you will hit the throttle too much and flip it down the road before you blow it up.
  17. ^^^^^^^ care to extrapolate on your experience in these matters ?-jack
  18. Why are you considering a 20000kms bike when you can get bikes with half that for similar money? And similar age.

    A 20000kms bike will have 20000kms of wear, tear and stone chips .

    A 7000kms bike wont have aged as much.

    Even if it's had a so called 'hard life'
    An R1 can do stupid speeds without even trying, so unless it's done 7000kms on a track I doubt you have much to worry about.
    Providing the service history is 100%
  19. Because mileage is possibly one of the worst measures of how much mechanical damage has been inflicted on an engine (and other moving parts). Only a complete idiot would choose one bike over another based solely on the kms travelled.
  20. Thats what you're dealing with here.