Thought I'd toss this out to all the Windows and Mac zealots that lurk here. Undertook the install of the latest Ubuntu distribution today, upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10. Background: I've been using Ubuntu since 6.06, before that I used SuSE. I manage RedHat (RHEL) and *BSD servers as part of my 'professional' activities. I have never had a Ubuntu that upgraded successfully. I backup my data, click the 'upgrade' button in the Update Manager widget and wait for the epic fail. Sadly I wasn't disappointed this time with the upgrade dying when trying upgrade the MySQL server from 5.0 to 5.1 - leaving me with a half installed system that I knew wouldn't survive a reboot. So a fresh install it is. I had downloaded both the 'Alternative' and 'Desktop' images. Because my experiences with the graphical installer offered by the Desktop installer typically gives me woes. Again, I wasn't disappointed. Firstly it couldn't figure out my rather typical nVidia GPU so it presented me with a black screen instead of the xsplash. So I selected the safemode graphics option from the GRUB boot and that gave me a desktop at least. Ran through the installer only to be left at a dead end at the partitioner - it didn't list the 320GB SATA drive plugged into a Intel ICH10 controller. Even though I could do all sorts of things to the disk using fdisk/gparted... Tossed the Desktop CD out and shoved in the Alternative CD. Ahh beautiful ncurses text displays taking me back to the mid-90's. This time I could see the disk and do all sorts of partitioning. All was well until it rebooted after the install and presented me, yet again, with a black desktop instead of the graphical login prompt... It also left me without keyboard or mouse. So I had to activate 'raw input' mode by pressing ctrl+prtscn+R and then drop to a console with ctrl+alt+F1 which I then conducted a update and full-upgrade with aptitude and then installed the latest nVidia linux drivers (185... Windows gets 191...) and did the 'nvidia-xconfig' and rebooted. Yay, I'm cooking with gas with a full 1920x1080 display and keyboard/mouse! I go into the nVidia control panel and enable the 2nd 1920x1080 display and click 'TwinView' and bang, dualscreen HD... wait for it... full desktop 3D!! this wasn't as easy in 9.04. So the installer/upgraders still suck the big one. Having said that, now that I'm using it, I'm quiet pleased with the changes and will be a happy camper until the next release which I guess is 10.04? So moral of the story, unless you're a sucker for punishment or a tightarse, stick with win/mac.