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Discussion in 'The Pub' at netrider.net.au started by Bravus, Jul 22, 2009.
twitter is crap in my opinion, stupid idea, but they are making zillions so thats all that matters
What does it do?? Is it much the same as facebook/myspace??
Keep hearing it on the radio.... all the sports starts seem to have it.
all it does is, lets say u log on to my twitter page, i can keep u updated on what im doing throughout the day
I can't imagine why anyone would want to know what I get up to during the day
I'd be very interested if anyone has done a study on the corelation between the huge amount of electronic connection between people available, and whether or not it's leading to more or less personal communication. For example, has anyone been "sacked via Twitter" yet? It surely can only be a matter of time before this happens.
My observation is that many people seem to be 'hiding' behind the electronic, and saying stuff that they wouldn't be brave enough to say face-to-face.....
The original Twitter question was 'what are you doing?'. That led to an awful lot of 'I'm just getting dressed to go out' type posts, which are pretty boring.
But the format is that you only have 140 characters per post, and the challenge is to do/say something interesting in that space.
I follow people I'm interested in, like Stephen Fry and William Gibson and Jack Womack, and they might twitter something once or twice a day, and it will invariably be interesting.
It's also a way of sharing cool stuff you find on the web by sharing a link, and so on.
I've seen it used in conference presentations for a 'back channel' conversation about what the speaker is saying, and there are lots more uses.
I was initially skeptical, but got into it and now maybe tweet something myself every day or two... no more frequently than that. Just under 100 people follow me - friends and people from other forums including a couple from here. They can stop any time if I get boring...
I kinda dream of a world where people are able to say 'it's not for me', rather than feeling they have to say '(because it's not for me) it's crap'. :roll:
facebook is similar and twitter updates to it why have 2 of much the same?
I often wonder just how many people who are devotees of facebook, twitter, MSN, forums etc that have never spoken to their neighbours..
I use twitter a fair bit but I don't use it to know what people are doing.
There are many companies, media groups, web sites, news sources, bloggers that post updates of what they are others are doing.
Twitter is normally the first place to hear of new hardware and software releases as just one example.
Also I follow a number of motorcycle and apple accounts that do regular reviews of products and after reading a tweet of something interesting (say a new bike for example) I can click on the link and read the review... all without having to trawl numerous web sites just to see what's new.
It saves time.
What distinguishes Twitter from Facebook? My bro in-law put up a post on FB asking whether anyone uses Twitter. I asked him what it was then he said you can tell people what you're doing. As far as I'm aware, you can do the same thing on messenger/Skype, Facebook and who knows what else. What makes Twitter a standout that makes people use it or have so many people/places advertising/talking about it? I've never checked it out. Bravus, it isn't for me.
I think you'll find that twitter predates facebook status updates
I think the Twitter hype is like anything else that's the new thing on the block, plus a lot of celebs and politicians and so on are doing it, which has got attention. The hype will die down.
Everyone picks their own mix of tools and media: I try to drop one off for each one I add. I use Facebook, but not for telling people what I'm doing, more as a discussion forum in one of the Groups.
I used to blog for about 4 years, but I barely do that now, except when I want to write something too long to fit on Twitter.
I'm totally fine with it not being for everyone, and as people have pointed out, there are multiple ways of doing quite similar things.
Each person picks their own blend - and some don't do any of their socialising online, and that's fine too. I'm happy for you to have your blend (you meaning everyone), but why not let me have mine instead of feeling you have to disparage what you don't understand or choose?
I know my neighbours - some of them - but I also met up with an online friend in Hawaii and will be meeting up with more in the UK next week. And having friends all around the world is broadening, rather than just local friends.
Anyway, not an evangelist, really: I posted my handle here in case anyone was interested, and it turned out a couple were, and I'll follow them back, and those who aren't interested never need to hear about it again.
I used to hate FB, but since I found the Firefox add-on that kills the stupid quiz updates it's been much easier to use. I only ever use it to see what other people are doing and found the iPhone integration has been useful. There is Twitter iPhone integration, but I spend too much time on the computer as it is...
Liz and I have different opinions on this, but she often describes time spent on her PC as 'wasted'. But communication is communication and there is so much more now with these different social networking tools. I am in touch with people I'd never be in touch with and probably have become disconnected from, yet with FB, MSN and even forums such as this, the communication methods are so simple and so pervasive that it's been a positive enhancement to my life.
Ahh ok, so its like a virtual sms that anyone can follow/read to see. Fair enough. I guess it would be useful if you are travelling or something so people can track your progress, would save money on postcards.
the question is would Socrates, Aristotle, or Plato have a need for such nonsense?
with respect to the OP, twitter is for people who have nothing better to do.
well, fcuk! it seems alain de botton has one as well
well, i guess, like the keffiyeh, i too, need to get on this hip bandwagon.
Kevin Spacey Tries, Fails To Explain Twitter To Letterman
It always amuses me that people bag twitter for being a waste of time but completely fail to mention (or sometimes even realize) that FaceBook, MySpace, MSN and just about every IM client is every bit as much of a waste of time.
None of them increase productivity people!
Oh... and I'm @Geoff3DMN (forgot that before).
^ sure. you can't discount that posting on NR is a waste of time as well.
but let's take a look at how absurd twitter can be.
empowering was once a word for technology...seems "technology" is stupefying the rest of us while others get rich off of it. news in 140 odd characters! pfft!
Of course: hype is what the media do.
The challenge is evaluating any tool, tech or otherwise, without either swallowing the hype or making your judgement based only on your reaction to the hype.
If I was a boss I'd be tearing my hair out with all this stuff going on.
Either there are jobs out there that require people to sit round all day and do a total of 5 minute's work, unsupervised, or people are stealing time from their bosses futzing around with Twitter/Facebook etc, AND Netrider? I mean, seriously, where is the average Australian's conscience? Or is this just the nouhties equivalent of stealing bricks from the work-site to build your shed; everyone else is doing it, so of course, it's alright?
I'm sure there's some of that - and companies block these sites for that reason.
But the boundaries between work and the rest of life are also blurring. I'm expected to answer email queries from students in evenings and weekends, well outside normal working hours, and to do a huge amount of admin work myself online that would in the past have been done by admin staff.
So there is not really any clear 'clock on/clock off' line between 'my time' and 'the boss's time'. And I probably work more hours than I get paid for. So the measure is productivity, not time-on-task, and on that basis I'm kicking arse and taking names!
Add to that the 'digital immigrants' (us old farts who started working before all this tech came along) and 'digital natives' (kids who were born with a USB socket behind their ears) distinction (which I think is flawed but sometimes useful), and realise that most younger people have 3-4 windows (or more) open simultaneously, plus music in the background and... We'd be swamped and distracted and less productive, and I'm sure despite their protestations some of them are too, but many more seem to be fully productive in that mode.
So on one hand I acknowledge the point you make, Paul, but on the other suggest that you might be bringing old thinking to new problems.