I'm still a bit of a long way from my upgrade, so I'm currently still in the researching phase. A bit of a background info: I use my bike for commuting to work everyday, rain or shine. The route I take spans a total of around 35 km each way and consists of 80% freeways, 15% 60-70 km/h roads and 40-50 km/h 5% residential area. I'm about 5'6" short, with a 29" inseam, and weigh a feather and a half (read: 60 kg). I can put both feet down flat on my Across, but I suspect it's been lowered by previous owners. On the GS500F, I could put both toes down, but could only flat-foot on either side. Having said that, basically, What I'm looking for (in Raven's words) is a mile destroyer that is narrow enough to filter comfortably through the West Gate "car park" during peak hours. And as a personal preference, I'd like to be able to put both feet down comfortably. Hence, I'm steering clear away from dual sports / adventures / enduros / etc. What I'm not looking for is arm-ripping, mono popping prowess. I agree that they're nice to have. But they're just not a priority for me Also, I'm hoping to keep the budget under $20k. Currently on the top of my "must ride" list is the BMW F800ST. So there you have it. Which other bikes do you reckon I should look at and why? Edit: I don't mind old bikes (as in late 90's onwards), as long as they've got a reputation for being bulletproof and just refuses to die.