Just got back from a short slow ride around the block with my first pillion. Convinced my flat mate that he should be my guinne pig. his response wouldn't you prefer to get one of the girls for a ride. My response..... nope, if I hurt you, I can laugh at you. Damn it was harder than I thought. Didn't help that he weighs about 85kg, when I'm a measly 73ish. But the beatiful thing is that we both survived :grin: But then we decided that it would be a good idea to go to an empty car park and give him a shot at trying to ride. What does he do..... he drops my bike. no biggie, a scratched brake lever. Thank God.