I got my L's in May last year, after only being on a bike/scooter for a total of 2 hours. A week later I got my bike/scooter/thing (Gilera Fuoco/MP3 500) from Bowral and road it home to Sutherland a dusk (wasn't that a fun experience... ). Anyhow, I use it as my daily commute ride to and from mascot (so about 250kms/week). Always riding safe. SO I finally start thinking in October to go for my P's..work gets in the way and it is January before I even get around to going for a 3hr pre-P Prep course ($75) at Harts St Ives. Glad I did. Not having done much (read nil) work on low speed maneuvers and turns, I find the cone weave a bit tricky, but doable...but the U-turn has me stumped. Breaking with this thing is no problem, as the two front wheels/breaks and the mass of the bike bring it up quickly. The Harts instructor is great and tries his best to encourage me and work out how to get this devil ride to turn in the area. Final advice on how to get this act together is; Hard turn the handlbars to full lock, lean the bike into the turn, constant revs, control with back brake make sure to get your mass 'as far as possible' on the outside of the turn as possible to stop the bike from tipping. This thing is going to be a monster to master . Anyone had similar experiences? I really do not want to do the test on a smaller bike as this is my ride and I should get in sync with it. Also, anyone know if the Loftus Training area (aka TAFE carpark) accessible to practice on? and on what days?