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Thoughts on the BMW R1200R

Discussion in 'Bike Reviews, Questions and Suggestions' started by dazza139, Feb 15, 2008.

  1. I've been lusting after this bike for the last couple of months. I'm a new rider but I'm looking forward to coming off my restrictions. I commute daily on my bike but I still enjoy a ride in the weekend and like the idea of doing some touring.

    I saw this bike in the BMW shop and I think it looks fantastic. Nice size and some good touring options. All the reviews I've read have said fantastic things about it. I know it's a big jump from a 250cc to a 1200cc but the BMW salesperson said this bike has very smooth power delivery and wasn't your average hooligan bike. It also has the BMW safety features i.e. ABS, ASC. I am a fairly conservative rider so I think this would suit me.

    So does anyone have an opinion? Obviously it's going to come down to a test ride which I won't be able to for a while. It's a bit pricey but if that buys me quality etc then I'm happy to pay especially if it's a bike that I am going to hold on to for some time.

    I would value other people's thoughts.

  2. Grunty motor, low maintenance shaftie, great handling, progressive front end. :grin:

    BMW pricetag, lack of hooligan factor... :(
  3. Awesome bike. I too looked at one.
  4. I just oggled one of these parked out the front of the local grocer.


    So beautifully finished, it's a real looker in the flesh. Now thats a proper hooligan bike. But yours is nice too.
  5. Yes the K1200R look fantastic but also look like the sort of bike I could kill myself on! 163 BHP I think

    Loz - what is meant by a "progressive" front end?
  6. The R1200R is easily my favourite BMW, it's much better than the previous R1150R (which wasn't a bad bike by any means).

    I've been tossing up between the R1200R and the Griso 1200 8 Valve (which isn't due in Australia for another couple of months).

    There are sportier naked bikes around... but few of them have such clean lines and balanced styling.

    The Tuono as just one example has wonderful handling and power... but looks like a dogs breakfast *after* the dog has barfed it back up.
  7. Hey You back up right there.
    The Tuono is the closest thing you can get to down right sexy in a naked bike.
  8. The "telelever" style front suspension on some Beemers like this one is superior to normal forks in that it somewhat isolates braking forces from suspension forces... This greatly reduces dive in the brakes, and means that when you're hard on the anchors the bike remains easy to tip into a corner because the steering geometry isn't changed like it is when normal forks are fully compressed.

    http://www.dinamoto.it/DINAMOTO/on-line papers/Telelever or forks/Telelever.html

    At the end of the day, the Beemer front end is cool because they're one of the few companies out there willing to experiment with releasing bikes to the market that try to go beyond the flawed traditional telescopic fork. From all accounts it works really nicely.
  9. Utter Horn looking bike.

    One day when I grow up, I'll get me one of those ](*,)
  10. K1200R has too long a wheelbase for a naked. That means slower steering, less wheelie and stoppie fun... Way to take all the fun out of 160 horsepower!

    And design guru Kash would say those cylinders are angled so far forward in the frame that they can't be integrated into the design at all, which is one of the key factors making it look like a parts shop bitzer.
  11. Had an R1200R as a loan bike during one of my services. Yep, very easy to ride straight after hopping on it, and very nice pickup! I really liked it!

    Butz. :beer:
  12. You are one *sick* man!

    The Tuono has been hit with the ugly stick so hard they broke the ugly stick :roll:
  13. Yeah well it's no Suzuki Bandit.... (snigger)

    Tuono is unreasonably sexy. Don't you listen to the old bloke. :p
  14. Old yes... blind no :p

    (with apologies to Hornet for borrowing his old guy hat)
  15. I think its the sort of bike that will still look good in 10 or even 20 years time. And will probably still be running just as sweet as the day you bought it. Quite timeless, i'd love one :cool:
  16. As anyone familiar with these forums will tell you, I'm hopelessly partisan in favour of BMWs, although I also recognise that they're an accquired taste and not what everyone is looking for in a bike.

    250 to 1200 is a big jump but not impossible. Although you'll be looking at vastly more power, as you've been told, the power delivery is nice and linear and shouldn't catch you out as long as you're sensible. You'll certainly not feel as if you're having to pedal it along with the gearlever, which is the accepted practice for decent progress on a 250 :grin: .

    What might come as a bit of a shock is the added weight and bulk when manouvering at low speeds. The naked boxer shouldn't be too bad as BMW have done a good job of putting all the heavy stuff down low but if it does start to topple, you're unlikely to get it back.

    Pricewise, BMWs make me wince when new and I suspect that dealer servicing won't be cheap. I wouldn't buy one unless I was intending to keep it for at least a decade.

    They are, however, well thought out for durability and are made of nice materials which don't dissolve in the rain or go crispy in the sun (much). Once out of warranty, doing your own servicing is not hard and most replacement parts you're likely to need are surprisingly affordable from the independent specialists (Motohansa and Munich Motorcycles).

    I'd say, if you like the bike, can live with the price and intend to keep it medium or long term, go for it. Just watch the weight and be aware of the 10,000 km acclimatisation period that BMWs need in order to get the best from their riders :grin: . And, unless they've progressed radically in recent years, you will find the gearbox horrible to start with. You'll eventually get used to it and they get better with running in. The box of my R1100RT is still improving with 60,000 km on the clock. A firm and deliberate gearchange action will teach it manners.
  17. What's that about Pat?
  18. It takes a while to get used to their little quirks, that's all. 10,000 kms is probably a bit of an exaggeration but they're not as plug and play as most Japanese tackle (although they're a lot more so than they used to be).
  19. Dazza,

    BMW's are a bit quirky as bikes go, and the R1200R a bit quirky as BMW's go!!! I love the look of the bike, it handles superbly and has loads of power. In typical BMW-style you can add options that alone cost more than some other bikes, but if you exercise restraint, you're only spending a small fortune! I pick mine up in another week or so. Black and fully optioned (no restraint shown at all) :grin:

    The BMW is obviously a huge step up from your 250, but don't let that stop you. This is a comfortable bike with very smooth power delivery, superb suspension & brakes, great ergonomics. It will be daunting at first, but if you ride it, love it, and can afford it, then who's to argue?