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Those Crazy Taswegians

Discussion in 'Politics, Laws, Government & Insurance' started by dan, Aug 15, 2005.

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    THE number of Tasmanian drivers losing their licences under the demerit points system for flouting road rules has more than tripled over the past four years.

    Figures issued by the State Government show that more than 150 drivers are losing their licence each month after reaching the demerit point limit.

    The figures -- requested by The Mercury -- reveal a substantial rise in the number of drivers caught in the demerit point net.

    In 2000-01, 844 drivers reached the point limit -- 0.3 per cent of licence holders.

    But in the last year the number has soared to 2769 -- 0.8 per cent of licence holders.

    Of those 2769 drivers, 1847 had their licence suspended for three months or more while 922 were given a good-behaviour period.

    Road Safety Taskforce chairman Paul Hogan said yesterday the figures seemed to show that some people were "slower learners".

    Infrastructure Minister Bryan Green said it was concerning that some motorists were not getting the road safety message.

    "Enforcement is an important part of our road safety strategy and if motorists don't modify their behaviour and continue to speed and drive under the influence, they will be caught and lose their licence," he said.

    Under the demerit points system, licence holders who accumulate 12 to 15 demerit points are liable to have their licences suspended for three months, 16 to 19 points for four months and over 20 points for five months.

    Full licence holders can opt for a period of good behaviour to retain their licence and keep driving. But if during the following 12 months they get more than one demerit point, their licence is suspended for twice the original period.

    Learner and provisional licence holders can be suspended if they reach four points in 12 months.

    Figures issued by the Government also show an increase in the number of people who have lost their licence for speeding -- 416 in 2004-5 compared with 358 in 2003-4 and 327 in the previous year.

    Overwhelmingly, the offenders were male -- 84 per cent compared with 16 per cent female.

    However, the total number of drivers caught speeding dropped in 2004-5 to 45,424 compared with 54,511 in 2003-4.

    Mr Hogan said many of those who lost their licence for speeding were likely to be repeat offenders.

    He said it was a matter a choice and people were deciding to speed.

    But he said those people ought to be aware -- and the figures backed it up -- that they were more likely than ever to be caught.

    "The brutal facts are that everybody knows right from wrong, everyone knows that speeding is a key issue in trying to reduce the road toll and road trauma," Mr Hogan said.

    In 2001 the Government introduced laws which resulted in the automatic suspension of licences of motorists who drive 37km/h or more over a speed limit.

    The figures are certain to be taken up in current debate on moves to lower Tasmania's speed limits.

    In June the State Government opened up for public comment radical proposals to slash speed limits. It is proposed that country road speed limits drop from 100km/h to 90km/h, highways from 110 to 100km/h and remaining 60km/h zones to 50km/h.

  2. Good to see speeeding offences going down in the state that sponsors the Targa!!!
    What these sorts of figures, wherever they're from, mask, is the terrifiying number of people who are license-endorsed, or disqualified, who just continue to drive!!! As long as they don't come the (mostly lucky) attention of the police again, they continue to do so, but pose a huge hazard in terms of what happens with insurance, etc, if and when they are involved in an accident........
  3. They had a bad road toll year last year and, as the last sentence in the article highlights, they are clutching at straws to rectify the situation.

    Because Tassie's road toll is generally fairly low, it is subject to fluctuations which skew it's performance. In the current road toll review you can see that Tassie has an 11.4% jump in their road toll, the highest in the country. How many more lives did that represent? 5. The actualy number of fatalities is a smaller number than the percentage increase. Notice that while that ACT experiences similar statistical anomolies, they are content to leave it out of the analysis.

    How many of those fatalaties were caused by excessive speed, or would have been avoided with lower speed limits is extremely debateable.
  4. Interesting that full figures are given for the speeding part of the stats, but not for the drink driving, and seat-belt parts, supporting the later contentions re lowering speed limits.
  5. This has largely come from lowering suburban limits from 60 KM/h to 50km/h. You become used to driving at a certain speed in areas you know well. When it drops to 50 you either find yourself constantly looking at the speedo or forgetting about it and driving around at 60 because it feels comfortable.

    I don't think there's much correlation between this and the amount of deaths. I actually keep an eye on the reports of road accidents. While speed plays a part in some, there are often several causitive factors.
  6. I think the other thing that we need to remember as far as the ACT is concerned, and I'm speaking as someone who lived there for over 20 years, is that it has an especially good road system that is well maintained and that, per capita of population, the density of traffic on the roads is very light.

    Canberrans, by and large are good drivers who appreciate the good roads that they have paid for to drive on.

    So the road toll there is small, but when looked at in light on the above, it's a little easier to understand.
  7. [tas] speed fines plummet, crashes increase


    Speed fines plummet
    TASMANIA Police's dropping of benchmarks for speed cameras contributed to a 14 per cent reduction in revenue from traffic infringements.

    Figures obtained by The Mercury. show that revenue dropped from $12.2 million 2003-04 to $10.5 million in 2004-05.

    Police Commissioner Richard McCreadie last November abandoned the benchmark which required speed camera operators to book 2.7 motorists per hour.

    The drop in revenue may have been even greater had the benchmarks been dropped at the start of the financial year, rather than more than five months into it.

    The number of speed infringements also dropped -- 60,483 for 2003-04 to 56,152 for 2004-05.

    The dropping of the benchmarks came after a period of fierce public debate on the cameras with recurring allegations that they were being used as revenue raisers.

    Critics had argued the benchmarks forced camera operators to police busy roads rather than places where road safety was a bigger concern.

    Mr McCreadie dropped the benchmark after facing scrutiny from the Legislative Council including former police commander Ivan Dean.

    A Freedom of Information request from The Mercury revealed there had been no written correspondence beforehand about abandoning the benchmark.

    The new benchmark policy coincided with a cut in the number of vehicles monitored from 9.3 million to 6.8 million.

    Figures show speed cameras booked 3.11 infringements an hour in the South, 2.19 in the North, 2.13 in the East and 2.75 in the West.

    The state average was 2.57 an hour compared with 2.9 the previous year.

    Tasmania Police has benchmarks for 14 of 20 traffic indicators.

    Despite their efforts, total crashes increased by 3.6 per cent and serious injury crashes increased by 5.5 per cent.

    Fatalities for the financial year were 52, six more than the average of 46.

    The statistics showed that 18,178 motorists were booked in 50km/h in urban areas -- compared with 18,329 the year before.

    The data also revealed the red light/speed camera project in Hobart and Launceston has not been operational for a year.

    The fines enforcement unit showed police registered 101,000 infringements worth $10.5 million in 2004-05.

    In 2003-04 it was 113,600 infringements worth $12.2 million.
  8. oh.. thats where that post went :D

    i wanted dan to say something about it :p

    internet got cut off at work, so i couldnt see it after i posted it.. now what am i going to do..