Eric Baume, the 1950s Sydney radio commentator used to sign off his editorial with that phrase. In the last couple of years many threads on all sorts of subjects have drfited into discussion of Christianity, religion and spirituality. Happily, unlike Harley threads, we have managed to argue and disagree with a remarkable degree of courtesy. Maybe, just maybe, a thread speicifically on the subject might be both useful, and enjoyable. So let me start by stating what I believe, and briefly, why. I believe first of all, that any discussion on the subject of Christianity that ignores the history and teaching of the Bible, is a waste of time. A CB-250 workshop manual and a GSX-1400 workshop manual might both be on the same general subject, but both are useless when applied to the wrong bike. The manual of the Christian faith is the Bible, all 66 books of it. So if we are to discuss the Christian faith, it must be within the confines of what the Bible records of it, and teaches about it, not from the ideas of the wider world, or even experience. Growing out of that, I further believe that the Bible is a trustworthy and accurate record of what God has done, what man has done, and what has happened to the universe, and especially, this world. I believe the original words were given by an Almighty God to trusted men who wrote down the words as given, and that generations of men who believed in these words painstakingly copied and compared copies to ensure that what we have today is what was originally written (albeit in our own language). So I believe in the Bible, I believe the men who wrote and passed on the Bible, and I believe what the people IN the Bible, SAID about the Bible. What did they say? Well, all the Jews, from Abraham to Christ and beyond to 70AD and the scattering of the nation of Israel, believed the Genesis record of creation to be literally true. The Psalmists and the poets and prophets of Israel believed in the Genesis record. Jesus Christ believed and preached the Genesis record of creation (unsurprisingly, since He was God and particpated in the event!!). The Apostles and the early church believed in and taught and enshrined in the creeds, the Genesis record of creation. Shall we start from there?