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The truth about boat people

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by vmaxer, Feb 16, 2012.



    We all have had the discussion of the boat people at some time or another.

    Most of us can't understand why the Australian Labor government continues to pay for these foreigners whilst hard working Australians continue to suffer the brunt of taxes, levies and tolls to help pay for the government's mis-spending.

    Well the time has come for the truth, I am asking everyone of you to spread this as far as you can and eventually it will end up with someone who might be able to do something about it.

    According to an Australian Federal Police (AFP) officer (who obviously will not be named), this is some of the facts you all need to be aware of.

    [1] Currently the AFP are not producing as many drug busts due to the millions of dollars of their budget being put into intercepting illegal boat people

    [2] When the boat sank last year off Christmas Island, the Australian authorities were throwing life jackets to the children and the adults were swimming to where the life jackets were, pushing the children under the water and taking the life jackets to save themselves

    [3] When the boat people arrive here, they have already printed out from the net their rights and have a list of welfare benefits that they demand from the Australian Government

    [4] Whilst in detention they tell the guards that they are here to serve them and the AFP have already investigated a number of assaults on detention staff resulting from them "not respecting" the detainees.

    So in other words when a guard doesn't respect or serve these illegal boat people to their satisfaction, they believe it's fine to backhand them to gain a little more respect

    [5] After spending around 6-9 months in detention, the illegal boat people have approximately $10 000 saved in welfare payments from the Australian Government.

    They then send the money home and arrange for the next family member to come out on a boat.

    So this means we are actually paying for the flood of illegal boat people through the welfare payments provided to them

    [6] The boat people are all given mobile phones and allowed to phone where ever in the world they please.

    The reported cost of the combined telephone bills for the first quarter of this year was $5 000 000, Yes, you read correctly, 5 million dollars, all care of us - the tax payer

    [7] Residents and the AFP on Christmas Island only have dial-up internet which we all know is impracticable in today's internet age. All detainees have broadband internet, care of the tax payer yet again

    These are all facts that simply can't be spoken about by those who know.

    Well the time has come Australia to say enough is enough.

    Please ensure that you spread this as far as you can.
  2. Yeah, I definitely have had enough of the government wasting money locking up people whose only crime is desperately seeking refuge.

    The solution is very simple. The reason why there were fewer boats under Howard was that we were taking approximately 60 000 legitimate refugees. Early 2007 the Howard Government reduced this to about 20 000. This dramatically increased the demand to come here illegally, which is far more costly for the refugee and the Australian Government.

    So easy solution, open our doors more and stop the boats.


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  3. Some of the points are simply bullshit, and the rest are gross exaggeration at the very least.

    Yes there is a problem, and yes it is being handled badly (and was by the previous govt also), but this mindless crap contributes nothing to the debate.
  4. You forgot to mention:

    Many of these people have sufferred terribly in their homelands.
    All of these people were desperate enough to leave their families and travel thousands of kilometers in the hope of findng something better.
    All these people are human beings
    How terrible of the detainees to expect to be treated with respect. How dare they expect to be treated better here in a place that claims to value freedom and respect. Right?

    I have a better idea... How about we take the money being wasted on trying to enforce drug laws that are ineffective and always will be and use it to help the sort of people who are desperate enough to leave everything they know and risk being ripped off, exploited or killed just to try and come somewhere else and better their lives?

    Take the bigotry somewhere else. There's enough around already.
  5. You think the AFP is a reliable source of unbiased information?
  6. You think that really came from the AFP?
  7. The truth about assulym seekers:

    - It is NOT illegal to arrive in Australia without a visa or to seek assulym
    - More assulym seekers arrive by air than boat
    - Around 90% of 'boat people' are given protection visas
    - Around 40% of those arriving by air are given protection visas
    - Australia is the only western country that detains assulym seeks beyond criminal and health checks.
  8. I suspect there may be something in the site T&C about spreading shit like this. Unless you can cite some evidence beyond an email chain letter from Jack Van Tongeren I suggest that this is offensive rubbish.
  9. I can only hope future foreign governments don't hold our current governments actions against us when the tables turn.
  10. I stopped reading after point 1, great, more drugs for us! Keep on coming boat people.
  11. ](*,) I can't believe I just read that. Your view of the 'truth' is disgusting.

    1. ‘Boat people’ are not illegal, they are refugees seeking asylum. If any money is being ‘wasted’ intercepting them, the obvious answer is STOP INTERCEPTING THEM!

    2. Bullshit.

    3. Also bullshit. Possibly occurs with some of the air arrivals. What’s the issue with knowing your rights?

    4. Guards exist to serve and protect refugees whilst in detention.

    5. The average waiting time in detention is closer to two years. As well as another 2years in ‘holding,’ waiting for security clearance. The majority suffer from clinical depression due to their treatment and isolation.

    6. This is just a blatant lie.

    7. Any internet issue on Christmas Island is a geographical issue only. Detainees are given a tiny amount of internet access each week which is incredibly slow due to government filtering, content blocking and monitoring. Internet access is allowed by surrendering ‘credits’ which are given for participating in activities like origami (I know WTF!).

    OP you are an idiot.
  12. I find this thread offensive to say the least. I know this is in the off topic section but I don't think this sort of BS should be anywhere on the net let alone on netrider and would love to see it deleted entirely.

    If you want to debate this topic thats fine, want to share your opinion, go ahead by all means, no one says we all have to agree - but by posting this stuff without adequately providing a source you are essentially trying to pass an opinion off as fact which is simply absurd.

    Even a basic search of facts on this matter will show what is delivered above and in the media on the issue of "boat people" is really just a polictical marketing exercise that the gullible eat up from entertainment programs masquerading as the news.
  13. What a load of shit - stop spreading crap like this. Yes there are some issues but the above isn't fact based at all, embellishment at best!

  14. I'm of the view we're better off letting it stand.

    The OP posted this rubbish mentioning that the majority of Australians think we need to be harsher with refugees.
    I'm assuming he actually believes that.

    I think it's worth showing that there are plenty of people out there who don't think like that and are prepared to treat people spouting it with the scorn they deserve.
  15. OP - How many of those points would I have to show as false for you to post a retraction?
  16. +1. So far all follow-up posts have disagreed with the OP. The majority clearly don't agree with his views.
  17. I'm afraid I have to agree, whilst IMO the views of the original poster are biased, factually incorrect and bordering on racist he hasn't actually breached the T&C's as far as I can see.

    It's generally better to leave the extremists spouting rubbish alone rather than imposing censorship, after all the (mostly) sensible majority do a pretty good job of shouting them down.

    If you censor them then all you do is indicate that their views are worrying enough to be taken seriously... and I don't know about the rest of the posters in this thread but that's one thing I don't believe.

    Of course this is just my opinion another mod (or an admin) may have a different view and take action anyway :)
  18. Fair enough - let it stand
  19. #19 AngryAnt, Feb 16, 2012
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 24, 2015
    Let it stand, freedom of speech and all that. Better that this rubbish gets surfaced and responded to.
  20. On plane vs boat people - Do "illegal plane people" go through the same processing as "illegal boat people"? Or are they mostly visa over stayers that get deported when caught?
    All my info on the subject I've gotten from the news - that is to say I know that I know nothing. Hard to feel sympathetic when they start burning things down though...