Yep, after reading through these forums and looking at peoples views and opnions regarding learners bikes, plus checking out the GSF650FU's and SV650SU's I finally purchased my learners bike. It came down to either a VTR250 or GS500F Today I picked up the GS500F, second hand. 12,500kms on the clock and in schmick condition, only 1 small mark on the rear, came with a cover, gear rack, gear bag and center stand. But happy as. Unfortunatly I can't ride it untill December, but once I get my L's I'll be jumping into some of the Learner Rides you guys put together. So thanks to all those that helped with answering questions, I hope to catch up with you and eventually join in on your rides.