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sydney protest ride over bridge

Discussion in 'Politics, Laws, Government & Insurance' at netrider.net.au started by bikeboy, Jun 26, 2005.

  1. Just caught this on 10s news tonight. Looked like some car agro towards the end.

    http://home.iprimus.com.au/ianfox/protest.wmv

    (about 2.5 M8)


     
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  2. I saw that too. Mentioned 200 bikes. Pretty big.
     
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  3. Short ride report.

    More like around 400 bikes there.

    This was also with the rain on in the morning.

    Turnout would have been much better on a sunny day. The number of harley riders was neglible (and they normally outnumber the sports bike riders on rides like this, ala Toy Run).

    It also made the Ch 9 news (with a good short interview with Guy Stanford).

    I felt it was very well organised by the MCC. They had stickers handing out stating what we were protesting. "A more fair toll and a tag that works". Most riders stuck it on the back of their leathers so cagers could read it.

    Lots of police. But totally cool. The Salvo's raised a bit of cash as well.

    We were instructued to leave the left lane open for the cages across the bridge (which we did). There was a little bit of aggro (my pillion was saying some looked pissed off, of course the kids in the cars loved it).

    I peeled off after the bridge, as the wife had the flu, so I didn't end up at the finally ride point (North Sydney), for the debrief.

    But, yeah, at least Ch 9 & Ch 10 news coverage, so looks good.
     
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  4. Also there were a whole bunch of scooters on the ride as well. Which I actually thought was pretty damn cool, nice big mix of riders.
     
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  5. Congrats to the Sydney folk. You did well.

    You have showed us what we have to do soon to prevent shittylink charging fees like you have or worse.

    Again well done.

    Brian
     
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  6. Ey, we KNOW what we need to do. It just needs to planned and timed better.
     
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  7. Ah yes the planning bit.

    Trouble with what I have seen is, no matter who seems to plan it, we all go too fast. The last one, we actually rode in the illegal side lanes to AVOID giving drivers the shites. Silly really. What were we doing there? If it does not annoy/hold up the traffic, why do it?

    Every protest has run at the speed limit including the tunnel one last year.

    To make a protest it has to be like that Sydney one where everyone sticks together and protects each other.
    Did you see the rider spot the cars trying to change lanes to pass? The rider jumped straight into the lane in front to block them. Excellent.

    I reckon that if a protest here was well orgainised, say Friday night before a dome footy match and it was at 20 k for two or more trips around the tunnel, stinkylink might listen.

    Imagine 200 or more bikes, 3-4 lanes wide at 20k. Would that give them the irrits?

    Regards

    Brian
     
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  8. Brian,

    The ride that was organised by Netrider/MRAA that targetted Citylink was not ridden at the speed limit, it was run at 20km/h. Despite the people who negotiated with CL that the run would be the posted speed limit.

    The ride organised by Netrider that Left from 2 locations 2 years ago took up two lanes of the Monash Fwy, it ran at 60km/h and the column of bikes stretched a fair way back, riders on that ride did the same thing as the NSW riders where they sped up and blocked drivers from getting around the column.

    The last one that was organised by the MRAA was a waste of time. I won't rehash everything in here again, but not many people were affected and it was certainly not memorable.

    If the MRAA wasnt so interested in getting its name up in lights and it spent more time talking to others out there and drawing from other experienced people it would actually start to achieve things.

    Oh and please, for my sanity's sake, can the MRAA please all chip in and buy Dale Maggs a new bloody jacket. I swear he only owns 1 piece of clothing and its that horrible looking Hardly Rideable jacket :>)
     
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  9. Well Vic, I was on those rides as well, I think you saw me there.

    If the bikes were running at 20 k I did not see that. The only time I saw the bikes go that slow was when they ran up to the back of banked up traffic. We did go slow in the tunnel as we tried to turn right (at west end) to go back. But once clear everyone I saw, me included, sped up. Some were even exceeding the limit. I did 2 official trips, one unofficial (got lost) and another on way to and way back from Willy. 4 trips through.

    I hope/glad you are correct in that where you were, it was as you said. But where I was it was not so. We may have to have a differing point of view here. I can only say what I saw. We may all need to have a practice run before the next protest.

    Maybe shittylink has seen that protest up in Sydney and they might think that they could get the same treatment. Perhaps they should.
    As our friend from Tathra said, lets get together without fighting and do for all riders. I don't give a shit who organises it. I will be there. Only could we do it in the arvo when it's warmer than like a few years ago in the morning. I nearly froze. I had a thermos and didn't know whether to drink it or pour it into my boots and gloves.

    As for maggsy, I think he only needs a good feed and a dose of combatrim and he would be a new man. :p :p :p :p (Sorry Dale) :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: (payback for the gravel) :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:


    Regards


    Brian
     
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  10. BTW, on the topic of the Sydney protest.

    The goal was maximum visibility with minimum annoyance of other car users.

    50 riders peeled off to go pay the toll in the tunnel, slowly.

    The rest of us did the ride across the bridge at 20km/h.

    We left one lane clear for the cagers (though most were too annoyed at the rest of us to notice :) )

    MCC are very good at this whole political game. They got their sound bites on TV (esp picking a slow news day, Sunday for the ride).

    As I said, the police were along in force as well, none of us did any stupid stuff (at least none that I saw). And the bridge had us on it for all of half an hour.

    And getting the salvo's around for donations (i.e. pay the toll to the salvo's), was a masterful PR touch.

    Got to see what comes of it, but as I said the MCC are very good at this political game.
     
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  12. Whoops, sorry. Not my link.

    Yep, Sydney news.
     
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  13. I thought it was a great day - numbers were okay considering the rain. The only thing I would like to have seen was an actual 'debrief' on the other side with some better organisation. Basically after we got off the bridge, a hundred or so of us stood around very confused waiting for something to happen or someone to say something. After a few smokes and resisting the urge to go up the Old Road in the wet, I turned back south, paid my toll and ended up having a lovely nap on my couch.
     
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  14. agreed... as i wrote in the other thread, perhaps get a couple of megaphones next time?

    good way to spend a sunday morning though :D
     
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  15. The follow up letter from the MCC.

    Bikeboy, if it was your site with the Ch 10 protest, sorry if it seems I took credit for it. I forwarded the link on, and they assumed it was mine :(

    From: bapmug-bounces@... [mailto:bapmug-bounces@...]On
    Behalf Of Guy Stanford
    Sent: Monday, 27 June 2005 11:03 AM
    To: AMC-Delegates
    Cc: MCC-Delegates; Bapmug
    Subject: [Bapmug] Tolls Protest


    MOTORCYCLE COUNCIL of NSW

    I would like to extend my warmest "thank you" to each of the riders who
    participated in yesterdays toll protest in Sydney.

    Despite the awful weather, over 350 riders showed discipline, courage
    and determination to take a stand against unfair tolls.
    Beats the hell out of just whinging about it!

    All NSW riders, please recognise the good work done in this protest by
    these riders and the clubs who backed it up. It was an excellent "tribal
    mix" with heavy cruisers mixing it with 250 commuters, a delightful
    colourful showing from the scooter clubs, solid support from sports
    riders, tourers and off-roaders.

    Police were good. A very straight road safety function and no hassles.
    The discipline from riders allowed them to relax and make it easy for
    everyone. The main concerns were aggressive cars attempting to bust
    through the stream of riders on the Bridge.

    There were some great moments. The "Black Team" did a brilliant job at
    the southbound Northern Harbour Tunnel entrance, delivering a clear
    message about the speed at which a motorcycle can pay a manual toll.
    This was re-inforced by the TV film shown by Channel 9 with the "after
    protest" team at the Cahill Expressway toll gates, where riders were
    simply paying tolls as normal - this is only in the Ch 9 coverage.

    This protest was extremely successful, putting the issue firmly onto the
    public agenda with a clear, simple story.
    The discipline showed by riders worked for us all, charming the TV
    cameras and all media reports are positive.

    Arthur Chesterfield-Evans of the Democrats backed us with a press
    release, giving additional credibility, then rode pillion with MCC
    Vice-Chairman Warren Bufett.
    After Warren dropped Arthur back at Parliament House, he scooted up to
    Watson's Bay to wait for the rest of his BMW Touring Club and while
    there, bailed up Kim Beazley on the footpath and handed him the bumper
    sticker, explaining the toll issue and directing him to watch the TV
    news. Apparently a bemused Beazley

    Well done everyone!

    Guy Stanford
    Chairman
    MCC of NSW


    Stills
    Dave Kruss (BA) provides the following gallery
    http://ugrad.phys.unsw.edu.au/~dkruss/toll/toll.htm
    <http://ugrad.phys.unsw.edu.au/~dkruss/toll/toll.htm>

    Sydney Knights provide the following gallery:-
    http://gallery.pixelpaul.com/thumbnails.php?album=13
    <http://gallery.pixelpaul.com/thumbnails.php?album=13>




    Video coverage from TV:-
    (Eq from ORoad Sports)

    http://www.purepsycho.com/banco/TollRide-TenNews.mpg
    <http://www.purepsycho.com/banco/TollRide-TenNews.mpg>

    http://www.purepsycho.com/banco/TollRide-NineNews.mpg

    and a mirror also set up by Eq:-

    http://encrypted.okay.se/TollRide-TenNews.mpg

    http://encrypted.okay.se/TollRide-NineNews.mpg

    This is the channel 10 coverage put up by Brad (BA)
    http://home.iprimus.com.au/ianfox/protest.wmv
    <http://home.iprimus.com.au/ianfox/protest.wmv>

    Also see below for media monitors

    SKY2 (National Australia)
    19:00 Sky News - 26/06/2005 - 07:10 PM
    Newsreader
    Station Ph: 02 9451 0888

    Motorcyclists have gathered en masse at Sydney Harbour Bridge to protest
    against road tolls. Protestors claim they are being discriminated
    against after being forced to pay the same tolls as larger vehicles
    since the opening of the Harbour Tunnel.

    Mentions: Motorcycle Council
    Duration: 0:23
    (c) Media Monitors


    Channel 9 (Sydney)
    National Nine News (Weekend) - 26/06/2005 - 06:13 PM
    Newsreader
    Station Ph: 02 9906 9999

    More than three hundred motorcyclists staged a protest on the Harbour
    Bridge to protest the toll. The riders want bike friendly E Tags.

    Interviewees: Guy Stanford, rider.; Vox pops.
    Vision: The Harbour Bridge.
    Duration: 1:20
    Summary ID: S00018267812
    (c) Media Monitors

    This program or part thereof is syndicated to the following 7 station/s:

    Channel 9 Darwin (Darwin), WIN Canberra (Canberra), WIN Dubbo (Orange),
    WIN Griffith (Griffith), WIN Orange (Orange), WIN Wagga (Wagga Wagga),
    WIN Wollongong (Wollongong)





    Channel 7 (Sydney)
    Seven News (Weekend) - 26/06/2005 - 06:03 PM
    Chris Bath
    Station Ph: 02 9877 7777

    Sydney's motorcyclists held a protest on Sydney Harbour Bridge today,
    angry at being forced to pay the same road tolls as car drivers.

    Duration: 0:27
    Summary ID: S00018267773
    (c) Media Monitors

    This program or part thereof is syndicated to the following 14
    station/s:
    Prime Armidale (Armidale), Prime Canberra (Canberra), Prime Coffs
    Harbour (Coffs Harbour), Prime Cooma (Cooma), Prime Dubbo (Orange),
    Prime Griffith (Griffith), Prime Lismore (Lismore), Prime Moree (Moree),
    Prime Newcastle (Newcastle), Prime Orange (Orange), Prime Tamworth
    (Tamworth), Prime Taree (Manning River), Prime Wagga Wagga (Eastern
    Riverina), Prime Wollongong (Wollongong)





    Channel 10 (Sydney)
    TEN News (Sunday) - 26/06/2005 - 05:20 PM
    Natarsha Belling
    Station Ph: 02 9650 1010

    Hundreds of angry motorcyclists took part in a ride across the Sydney
    Harbour Bridge today as part of their protest against road tolls.

    Duration: 0:26
    Summary ID: S00018267675
    (c) Media Monitors

    This program or part thereof is syndicated to the following 9 station/s:

    Ten Canberra (Canberra), Ten Coffs Harbour (Coffs Harbour), Ten Lismore
    (Lismore), Ten Newcastle (Newcastle), Ten Orange (Orange), Ten Tamworth
    (Tamworth), Ten Taree (Manning River), Ten Wagga Wagga (Eastern
    Riverina), Ten Wollongong (Wollongong)



    (No, not angry, just grumpy and exasperated at lack of commonsense.)



    Short ride report from Brad Jayakody (BA MCC):-

    I thought there were around 400 bikes there + a whole bunch of pillions.

    This was also with the rain on in the morning.

    Turnout would have been much better on a sunny day. The number of
    harley riders was neglible (and they normally outnumber the sports
    bike riders on rides like this, ala Toy Run).

    It also made the Ch 9 news (with a good short interview with Guy
    Stanford).

    I felt it was very well organised by the MCC. They had stickers
    handing out stating what we were protesting. "A more fair toll and a
    tag that works". Most riders stuck it on the back of their leathers so
    cagers could read it.

    Lots of police. But all totally cool. I think the Salvo's raised a bit
    of cash as well.

    We were instructued to leave the left lane open for the cages across
    the bridge (which we did). There was a little bit of aggro and cars
    cutting across (my pillion was saying some looked pissed off, of
    course the kids in the cars loved it).

    I peeled off after the bridge, as the wife had the flu, so I didn't
    end up at the final ride point (North Sydney, I think), for the debrief.

    There were also a fair number of scooters in the ride as well, which
    was pretty cool.

    But, yeah, at least Ch 9 & Ch 10 news coverage, so looks good.

    -Ends -
     
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  16. that's cool Kaer. glad to be of service :)

    cheers


     
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  17. apparently there is a mention of this in this month's AMCN... anyone seen it?
     
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  18. Yeah it's a tiny little article squeezed into the left hand side of page six. I would have though a little more support was warranted.
     
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