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Swapping from a Suzuki Across to a Hyosung gt250r..........?

Discussion in 'Bike Reviews, Questions and Suggestions' at netrider.net.au started by Pedro78, May 6, 2008.

  1. Hi Guys,

    I recently passed my P's and am riding a 98 Suzuki Across.
    Im using the bike mainly for commuting and am doing approx 300kms per week (aprox 15,000 per year).
    Half of my trip is on normal roads and the other half on the motorway.
    What im currently considering is selling the across and replacing it with a 2nd hand 06 or 07 Hyosung gt250r.
    The main reason being that you get a bike thats approx 8 years newer with alot less kms for not to much more $.
    If i was purely using the bike on weekends then i would definately keep the across but im worried that using it as a daily commuter will see the value of it reduce considerably as i clock up more kms.
    I know alot of people will probably suggest keeping the across for the next 12 months until its time to upgrade but the other thing that i need to take into consideration is that i may not be able to afford to upgrade to a bigger bike once im unrestricted and the cheaper cost of greenslip and insurance on a 250 is definately an advantage.
    I have considered getting a new Kawasaki 250R but the budget wont stretch that far.

    What are peoples opinions??
    Do you think swapping to a gt250r is a good idea or should i keep the across?

    (Please keep in mind that im not looking to turn this into a b**ch about Hyosungs thread)

    I realise that you get what you pay for and that the quality of the hyosungs may not be quite up to the standards of other brands but providing it gets me where i need to go and is reliable then that all i can really ask for.

    Has anyone riden both an across and a gt250r that can give feedback on both in relation to which bike performs better, has a more comfortable riding position etc?
  2. OMFG :roll:

    I'm really getting tired of having to reply to the 'should I get a Hyosung' posts. But I'll keep doing it to try and steer as many people as possible away from these buckets of shit. :evil:


    This has been covered time and time again and each time it becomes a 'don't buy a Hyosung' thread - which I agree with.

    In short - I've ridden both bikes and owned a GT250R. It was a piece of shit. Bought brand new and and was still a piece of shit. Buying a second hand one is a laughable idea. Many many others have bought them and (surprise surprise) have also found them to be a piece of shit. The guys who have JUST bought one and don't think they're a piece of shit will soon find out that they are just that - a piece of shit.

    They aren't reliable so don't make the mistake of thinking that they are/could be. You'll be sorry. :oops:

    The suzuki is an excellent bike and you should keep it.

    Also here are some threads for your perusal:


    Just to name a few.
  3. There would be one significant advantage - Hyosungs get about twice the fuel tank range. An Across is dry in about 230-240km and I've heard the Whoflugs getting over 400km on a tank.

    Having said that, I think you'd be mental to do it. It's a learner bike, how much longer will you be riding it anyway? Not to mention how cousin-shaggingly stupid you'd have to be to seriously look at a Whoflung in any circumstance.
  4. Although they have a bigger tank, they rarely run for 400k's before breaking down. If you're only keeping it until you are off your p's then stay with the Across, now I think about it if you want to keep it any longer then keep the Across too. Although it would be merely stupid to get a new Hyo with a warranty it would be complete insanity to get a second hand one without...
  5. Stig, that one goes straight to the pool room!! :rofl:

    PM sent Pedro. :wink:
  6. For this to be a good idea you'd have to be talking about doing 30000kms a year IMO.

    Older bikes = depreciates slower. 15000kms on a newer bike will depreciate it more than 15000kms on an older bike. Not to mention that you may be one of the unlucky hyo owners who find themselves without a bike for months due to things going bang and needing parts which take forever.
  7. 12 months from now the Across will probably be worth more than the Hyoung. Factor in the cost of the change over and it can't make a lot of sense. :?

    Unless the Across has serious problems and won't last the distance till you can upgrade, then you'd be mad to sell it. :)
  8. Thanks for the comments guys i appreciate the feedback.
    Better to find out now than after i have already done the deed i guess.

    Im actually a huge fan of the across, so far the only thing i can really fault on it is the small petrol tank but then the storage compartment comes in quite handy so that kind of balances things out.

    I know this is probably one of those how long is a piece of string questions due to the fact that some people commute and others only take them out on weekends but what would be considered to be average yearly Kms for a bike?

    E.g - not sure what it is now but they always used to say that the average kms for a car were approx 20,000kms per year.
  9. I ride a 2005 GT250R. I got it for a few grand from a good mate last September, and it had 12,700km on the clock. Warranty expired in October. Its now around 26,000km - I do 300km/wk of commuting, plus whatever I get up to on the weekends. Similar riding to you, OP, it sounds like.

    While the last owner had some trouble, since it was all fixed under warranty with the 2006 parts, I've had only a few minor niggles with it. Since updating some of the parts (headlight bulbs, better tyres & brake pads, zaust pipe and slightly bigger windscreen), I'm quite happy. I actually was a little uneasy about getting a Hyosung at first, considering the reputation in Australia- but couldn't really complain at getting a 2 year old bike with low k's and a bit of warranty left for so little. That same money would buy me a fairly ordinary older bike otherwise.

    It makes a lovely noise and will see me through to upgrading to (at this point) a nice Hornet next year sometime.

    I really like the range - ~400km from a tank of fuel.
    Changing oil & filter is easy (although anything more is a pain as the fairings screw into each other as a point of reference, so once you pull everything off its a hell of a time to line it all back up again - easier with practice). The 4,000km service cycle is a bit low too, although I just change the oil and filter every second service now that I'm comfy with it.

    Regular maintenance and fluid checks seems to be the name of the game with Hyosung, unlike the more bullet-proof Jap bikes where you can often reportedly get away with being a bit slack about maintenance. Keep an eye on everything, service it regularly and on time, and she'll be right.

    My 2 cents anyway. I'm by no means a fanboi of Hyosung, but credit where its due - I got a newish, cheap bike that goes well, sounds good and looks great. Its a comfy ride, and I have no regrets.
  10. The usual excuse for these POS, maintenance seems to make no difference at all, if yours is going to go bang it will go bang no matter what.

    Mine had a full dealer service history and failed both times within weeks of a service.

    Every manufacturer has Friday afternoon bikes, but hyo seem to have more Fridays in their week?
  11. +1 Seany

    Pedro, regardless of what your 2nd bike would be, I'd just use the Across. If you were trying to save kms on an expensive specialist bike (sports, touring...) then I say that getting a cheap little commuter might be good. But you're only saving on an Across. I used to own one. I loved it, but it's not really a saving to have that AND another commuter. If you get a hyo you'll just loose your money there instead of the Across.
  12. Advantages of hyo have been mentioned.

    Re: quality of the bike. The newer ones are fine, the whingers here are riding some of the earlier models and those things were quite crap. Hyo has changed around since then and complaints are rather far and few between.

    So it depends on how old a bike you get. From what I understand, there's a vast improvement on models 2006 onward. I wouldn't be comfortable buying one older than that. If that is all you can afford, maybe just stick to the Across.

    Regarding cost - loss in resale is not as bad on second hand bikes vs. new, so I guess it comes down mostly to whether or not you can be bothered making the switch really.
  13. I'm bias towards the Across, I owned one and loved it. I've never ridden an Hyo but I'm pretty confident that the you would miss the extra power of the Across. I went from a Spada to my Across - there was a big difference at highway speeds.
  14. Oh, don't be silly.

    Stick with ya across.
  15. As I've said numerous times Taiheung, Mine was an 07. It was a POS.

    Rubbish. Anything else you'd like to make up?
  16. you are taking the piss, i have heard numerous stories of 07 run GT250Rs with farked batteries, side stand switches and caliper braket bolts falling out or snapping before they get to their 1000k service.

    id pick a 20 year old jap bike over a brand new hyo any day of the week. the older jap sports bikes really were made with quality in mind.
  17. 2006

    I have a 2006 Hyosung gt250r with 14,000kms on it ride it every day commuting and rides on weekend.And the only real problem that i have ever had with it was when the master brake cylinder went on the back locked and the brake locked onto the disc and burnt the disk plus brake pad. This however was replaced under warranty.
    One thing i must admit though the spare part system could do with a overhaul for hyosungs as when clutch cable went after 12,000 i had to wait a week and half for it to come. And when i replaced chain at 13,300 i had to wait for rear sprocket for 3 weeks. I don't consider these 2 problems to be hyosung fault becuase clutch cables and chains wear over time on any bike it was more so the spare part service of hysosung that got to me.
  18. ^^^
    :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
    you just listed 2 fairly major problems. a jap bike at 13000kms is still brand new. chains should last 30000kms not fcuken 13k kms...
  19. the chain

    The chain i replaced it with now will last 30,000kms. I don't consider a chain to be a major problem if they had the rear sprocket it in stock it would have been fixed up in 60 mins and i would have been back on the road. I also probably could have gotten another 1000kms out of it if i got it tightened it a few more times i just decided to play it safe and get a aftermarket chain. And it will always vary on your riding style as to exactly how many kms you will get out of a chain not the bike. I consider a major problem to be something that cost you more then 400 dollars and takes longer to fix
  20. after reading the replies posted since i gave my mini-review of my gt250r, i realised i forgot to give my opinion on your actual question.

    stick with the across. better quality and cheaper to fix if something does go wrong, versus the hyosung's extra fuel range, and the expense of changing bikes. overall it would not be a wise transaction.