Hi all, Looking for some advice/opinions on the above 2 LAMS bikes. I am not looking to start another which LAMS bike is best discussion think that has been done already and there are 2 many variables for that debate. Also not looking for a new v's 2nd hand discussion again been done more than enough...... So if we can stick to the above 2 bikes that would be great. Now the details - Will be bought new Used as a commuter from Nunawading to Wantirna in Victoria, about 15 k's each way I am 5 foot 8 Approx 75kgs in ATG In my 40's Looking to keep for 2 years plus while I learn how not to get killed or kill myself ...... So what I am after given the detail above is which of the two would you buy if they were the 2 choices ? Some insight into why would also be useful. Many thanks , Jeremy PS apologies to the CB400 guys on here who have been great at giving advice just want to look at a couple of other options.