All, Well the time has come to look at my first upgrade bike and the SF848 looks like the bike for me. I waited for the brutale b3 to come out, but Im a bit unsure having seen the new f3, might be a bit small for me. Now ducati being ducati their accessories are plentiful but not cheap, so Im going to see if I can find some non factory manufacturers, any suggestions on that part would be great. Finally, from people's experience, how much do ducati negotiate on price, I started having a conversation with them today and immediately the sales guy deflected to the accessories and doing a deal on them. Given I hadn't done my homework, I didnt start talking turkey with him, but any help from people on the board would be great.