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Some traumatised families tonight....

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by gegvasco, Nov 29, 2006.

  1. Thoughts go out to the families of the Army guy/s lost on the BlackHawk in Fiji. Last I heard, one dead, one missing. Can't imagine how awful a time it must be for them. Lets hope they find the missing guy.

    And if your not interested, think about this...they weren't there to invade a country or do Bush's bidding. They were there to ensure Aussies like you were kept safe and had a way out in case things got ugly. And now in doing so, some won't be coming home to their families for XMAS.

  2. Indeed, Greg, sympathy is certainly called for.....
  3. "Per Ardua ad Astra"

    So called peace time deaths somehow always seem the worst.....

    let's hope the missing guy is found safe
  4. Pretty sad incident. :( Our thoughts are with the families and friends of those injured and lost.
  5. Condolences to all :(
  6. Nothing worse than training accidents I'd say. No one expects them, you are training to be safer and better. Peacekeeping/evacuation has to be the most important work anyone can do.
    Condolences to all.

    Regards, Andrew.
  7. Have they executed the guy(s) who designed the Black Hawk Helicopter yet :roll:
  8. It's not the helicopter. It's the nature of helicopter operations, low and slow, lots of hazards like trees, ship's structure, gusts of wind when close to the ground, very complex piece of equipment to handle etc.

    Regards, Andrew.
  9. So is this the ONLY helicopter they use for these types of missions?
    Cos there seems to be an awful lot of them crashing, and not many (none?) others that you hear of...
  10. The sad part is they won't get recognition for action, but there is little doubt they are doing more than just hanging around waiting to see if something happens.
  11. They're the only helicopters Australia uses for troop/people movement and general light freight. They are also used by the US military for the same purposes.

    Regards, Andrew.
  12. First point to make about any such incident is that speculation is a very damaging thing. Especially the way the media runs with it, it clouds all the issues and often leads to political/PR outcomes overriding the outcomes that should have resulted if we are ever to learn anything from accidents.

    Immediately implying the helicopters are it fault is like saying V8 Supercars are unsafe because they are in so many crashes. Yet they are one of the safest vehicles you could possible get into. It is the manner in which they are required to be used that lends them to having accidents. Army helicopter pilots are some of the most highly skilled and competent pilots around. And because of that they are skilled enough to undertake some very tricky procedures. Stuff that civilians are forbidden from doing. That entails risk and despite all the best efforts and caution, sometimes things go wrong. It is the nature of military flying.

    Just like we wouldn't immediately blame the pilot, we shouldn't immediately blame the aircraft, or it's maintainers, or the squadron CO or.... Let's wait until the investigation is complete.
  13. What he said.

    Regards, Andrew.
  14. Most of the media seems to be struggling with the difference between a sea-king and blackhawk and a bell.
  15. Yeah, channel 10 kept playing footage of a Chinook tripping over it's undercarriage on the back of a US ship.....

    Regards, Andrew.
  16. It would be like MotoGP. 1 little mistake and POW! you're flying like you've been launched out of a cannon.

    Good vibes to the families. Our thoughts are with you.