So as a rider - the worst thing you can do is hit another rider in your car!!! On the way to work in a bit of a dream - we had break in Fri night while we were in the house. I was stopped at the lights, first car, right lane of a dual lane road - going straight. Right turn arrow goes green and I goose forward a couple feet and stop, not my light - just as a guy filters past and pulls in front of me, we collect each other and he goes down. He was somewhat angry, i was stunned I had done suck a bone thing, his Oggy Knobs saved most damage but broke a footpeg and the oggys. Exchanged details, will see what he comes back with for cost. I think i am wrong, I mean I hit him.