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Short blurt Guzzi Breva 1100

Discussion in 'Bike Reviews, Questions and Suggestions' started by FormerUser1, Dec 19, 2005.

  1. After the ER-6n surprise-ride this morning it was across to A1 in Ringwood, where trusty old Glen had promised me a Guzzi Breva 1100.
    Just after the release of the Breva 750 some time ago, I was lucky enough to get a tester for some hours and came away stumped.
    http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/brevaguzzi/message/34 for the write up.

    I expected a bigger/ faster/more beefy version of the 750…and came away with mixed feelings.
    First things first:
    It’s big, it’s low, and it’s heavy. All up ok then? Hmmm….sort of.
    Turning the key brings the “instant-disco” to life in one hit…Buck Rogers would’ve been proud of it. Lights and spinning needles galore, any colour of the rainbow is displayed…annoying. Even after the circus has gone to sleep again.
    The seat is low, everything falls to hand.
    The hydraulic clutch seems to drag at take-off in 1.gear…as if trying to prevent stalling.
    The bike had a freshly-fitted MADAZ pipe, while looking good and ridiculously small for the size of the bike, it caused drumming inside the helmet within 10km. Gave the impression of being quicker than I really was. Which in turn showed up the real negative point (to me, as opinionated as I am) of the package: engine.

    The new CARC-drive seems to work as advertised; hardly any shaft-drive reactions are noticeable.
    Bars are wide and high, the plastic-tank is wide and high, creating a pocket behind it, one feels “at-home” at the tiller. The Brembo’s up front are superb. Massive…and effective.
    The handling is sweet, chassis solid, suspension somewhat harsh at the rear-end (but adjustable via easily-accessed turn-knob). So far it IS the bigger 750.
    Easy handling, quick turn-in for a bike that size, the excess-weight is hardly noticed. Different at the slow stuff though…that’s where the weight shows…and there’s plenty of it. Way too much.

    Gear changes are lighter and even more positive than on the 750. Engine braking is impressive and perfectly usable. Unlike the rear brake, which is hopelessly aggressive.
    Even light tabs result in lockups…it’s ridiculous. Dangerous, too, as there’s no way of telling/ feeling where the point of “bite” is…
    At the lights the gearbox/ clutch sound like something’s floating around loose in there. Something heavy.
    Up Mountain Hwy, the standard “test-track” and the Breva 11 shows it’s weakest spot…unless held above 5000rpm, the big twin “dies-in-the-arse” on corner exits in 2. and 3. gears. No grunt, no punch when compared with my usual ride (V-Strom 1000cc-twin). The Madaz pipe is the only thing going, everything else feels flat.
    Above 5000rpm things get moving though…it’s just the sort of bike (with a “guessed”, unmarked redline around 7500?? rpm), that should have way more meat down-low.

    The engine feels “gooey/ rubbery” up to that point, then frees up and spins up happily.
    The standard Guzzi-shakes disappear around 2000-2500rpm, standing at the lights still gives a free Pilates-session, mirrors moving like hit by a cyclone.
    The headlight’s got a “droopy nose” (like it or hate it), the single-sided swingarm looks cool.
    All up:
    Hmmm…. it’s a Breva 750 for 2-up work…with a few things having turned sour between the 2.
    What should’ve been a natural progression from the 750 has got too significant shortfalls, the rear-brake is useless to me (as a “both-brakes-rider), the rear suspension too harsh, the bike’s way too heavy, the Captain Starbuck dash is a nuisance.
    Tried for another 20km out the back of Monbulk, then short-cutted back to Ringwood, as nothing more/ different bubbled up. :cry:
    Still was a nice ride though :D :D

    It’s “Thumbs down” for me on the Breva11.


  2. Guzzi really seem to have lost the plot in recent years.
  3. Perhaps....but sometimes they come up with something real-good.
    Check the link for the 750 write-up.
    Given the choice between the 750 and 1100, I'd buy the 750.
    Hasn't got the top-end rush, but a well-rounded package and more fun than the 11.
  4. The new Griso looks like it could be an interesting departure from the usual. I'd like to take one of them for a few hours and see what it does for me.
  5. Bummer, they had one standing there, the Vic JSG (importer) rep told me the same thing...it was getting a bit late, too much traffic going up Dandy for a 3.sprint today :D
    Next time.
    Griso= 95NM to the Breva's 65NM...that sounds better.
  6. I think Guzzis' on the right track...just needs a few model updates to sort it...the Breva 1100 I rode seemed too soft in the suspension,but fitted me just fine...and the panniers are too small for us...
  7. Breva 1100


    Everyones view of any motorcycle is entirely subjective I know but I recently rode the same A1 Breva in standard form for a little over a week and probably did close to a thousand kays on it. My experience was very different. Fabulous engine grunt from way down low, smooth and absolutely delightful in the twisty stuff.

    As for the rear brake I found it almost non-existent rather than savage. My guess is that the Madaz pipes may have had some sort of adverse effect on the fuelling and maybe the rear pads have been changed for a different type.

    Personally I think Guzzi are right on the money in everything but price and the Breva 1100 is an excellent coice for anyone who may be thinking BMW but wants a bit more character. I'd have one right right now.

    Rob Smith
  8. That's funny, Two Wheels seemed to be really impressed with this bike. Among other things they say :
    "The engine is a cracker. It delivers smooth and constant power right through the rev range..."

    I wonder if that non-standard pipe might be to blame for at least some of your negative experience?
  9. Could be that they changed the pads/exhaust again. Glenn/ the JSG-Rep (sorry, forgot your name if you're reading this) and I had enough time to talk over things afterwards.
    They knew that I'd do a write-up about it.
    Perhaps time to have another go...and do the Griso side-by-side.
    I'd really expected more "BITE" down low for such an engine. Perhaps it was the can...and the pads used at the time.

  10. The one at Newcastle when I called in travelling through was bog standard,100klm old...'expected at least the slight grumble of my Cali EV pipes...and accellerating Two up,it felt no more powerful than my EV(true).maybe,because its so quiet...the sticker on the panniers says "max 5kg" !?!? COME ON!....On big trips we carry up to 35kg on the EV...
    As Rob Smith says its an excellent choice...but,I dunno...'think I need another test ride...the price is a bit much too...
  11. Breva V1100 Test

    I tested the Breva V 1100 too and found a few small glitches that annoyed expecially at the price of $22K.

    The dry clutch noise, the indicator switch was very hard to find the central off position, the engine was flat below 4,000 and the gears although light it was difficult to find neutral.

    on the plus side it is a great looking roadster, with a terrific engine and great sound for a dedicated Guzzi rider it would be about as good as it gets.

    I think that given time and a Mk11 version this bike which I rate 10 out of 10 for looks will deliver all the goods.

    At the moment though it lacks the finesse of the evolved BMW 1150 roadster, and even though some of the web blogs say that the new Breva will lure some of the died in the wool BMW riders away from their marque, I doubt that it will.