Guys, they say that if you go to buy a car privately....be wary of an engine that has been 'pre warmed up' before you roll up. well this week we have checked out 3 bikes. one in a dealership, and 2 privately......the dealer one started up, the 2 private ones didnt crank over, not enough juice in battery to turn it over. both times they had at least an hour warning that we were arriving, so even if it had a dodgy battery, they could put it on a charger and try and crank it over before the buyer arrives. they both claimed that they were happily riding the bike, the DAY before........yeah right!!! is this normal in mbike world, or are these just thick people that have no idea?