to my fellow QLders, donn't you think its time to scrap the q-ride system for a far more safer system of learning? To non-qlders, q-ride is our system where if you have your open car licence, you can get a full bike licence and the training is not regulated in any way- there are minimum guidelines and most places that train, also sell bikes it is quite shocking how easy it is to get your licence. when ,I got my licence( probationary, i am still on my car Ps) i was so unconfident that i redid the course at another training centre. I could not even change gear properly or countersteer and they still passed me the first time! I propose dedicated training facilities with strict guidelines. While i acknowledge that it wont prevent SMIDSYs or stupid driving, it will go along way to reduce single vehicle accidents The GC bulletin is anti-motorcycle in some ways but this article does make sense http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2007/12/05/5681_gold-coast-news.html Thoughts?