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SA SA Road Safety Strategy - more cameras, new motorcycle GLS, more enforcement...

Discussion in 'Politics, Laws, Government & Insurance' started by robsalvv, Oct 27, 2011.

  1. Stumbled upon the 2011-2012 SA road safety strategy action plan:

    With specific regard to motorbikes it says:
    > Release a stakeholder discussion paper on licensing changes for motorcycle riders. (DTEI)
    > Explore options for a motorcycle safety fund dedicated to motorcycling safety initiatives to address high and disproportionate risks. (DTEI)

    What's wrong with SA's motorcycle GLS?

    The rest of it is essentially more cameras (including average speed), more enforcement, more police and put in some ground work on technological solutions.

    [FONT=TradeGothic Light,TradeGothic Light]Nothing about better trained road users. [/FONT][FONT=TradeGothic Light,TradeGothic Light][/FONT]

  2. At a quick glance, if that were published in Victoria it would almost look like a step toward rational strategies. :roll:
    That only shows how far off the deep end Vic has gone in recent years. A commitment to 100kmh rural roads is something that we could only dream of.

    Admittedly the enforcement bits are a little worrying, given the jackboot policing that SAPOL has long been known for. But it doesn't specifically focus on speed alone, nor seem to mandate an increase in infringements the way Victoria's has.

    They just couldn't resist going for a slush-fund levy though, could they?
  3. I just read the action plan pdf.

    No mention of improving our roads. Some of our rural sealed roads need rebuilding. Actually some dirt roads are better than the sealed ones.

    A few years ago I thought they reduced all rural speed limits to 100kph unless sign posted otherwise. All major state and national highways are still at 110kph.

    I don't think it matters what measures anyone puts in, there will allways be accidents/injuries/deaths on our roads at least while the human element is in charge of the vehicle. Considering most of our highways are still single lane each way it's surprising our road toll is that low. Just look at the States, three lane highways and they still mange to run into each other. The German autobahn and it's licence training requirements still have accidents.

    In SA and their RideSafe program is a good idea but you shouldn't have to pay that much for it. And if bike riders have to do it, then so should car leaner drivers have a similar program. Not to mention the under 50cc scooter rider who gets no training at all and can use a car licence.
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  4. 50cc scooter riders just don't appear as a significant issue in the stats. The lack of mention of improving roads is simply deplorable. One of the most basic and essential ways of reducing motorcycle trauma is to make a road that's safer to ride on. A rider can still die in a 30km/h impact, so shaving a bit off the speed limit doesn't really do much good. Any road that is safe for motorcyclists is actually safe for all road users - it's such a basic concept.

    Your human element comment is smack bang right in the middle of the Vision Zero / Safe systems principles, where they just write off humans as a fallible part of the road system - humans will make mistakes they say, no matter how much training they get. What they don't say is how many fewer mistakes there would be. So the approach is for Safer speeds (mostly reduce), Safer Roads (engineering solutions), Safer Vehicles and Safer people (via them complying to the stricter laws). So basically, as my mate Cheffie points out, the safe system approach is a "please crash safely" approach.

    By the way, Germany has a very good road safety record - people invest substantially in their training and licenses there... unlike the U.S., however the US just recorded it's lowest road fatality toll for 30 years or something like that - still a long way to go compared to EU countries though.
  5. Co-incidentally, there's a story in today's Tiser suggesting that over half of young drivers actually want more training... http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/young-drivers-are-not-ready-for-road/story-e6frea6u-1226250771544
    There's that word "research" again, so make of it what you will.
  6. Unfortunately the prevailing philosophy is that if you drive within the parameters of the system, you will be safe, you don't need any additional training beyond the simple gaining of experience. So it wouldn't matter in 99% of respondents said they want more training.

    I don't understand why the authorities are stuck on this line of thinking.