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Rob's new Toy: Ibanez SR 505, mahogany 5 string Bass.

Discussion in 'The Pub' at netrider.net.au started by robsalvv, Mar 12, 2008.

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    The pic is an online example of my new toy :)

    I need a change in musical direction... or an addition at least... so I've started down the road of a long held/desired ambition of mine, which is to play bass properly. This desire took hold back in the days I gave funk and fusion a red hot go... I couldn't help notice how the bass players I played and jammed with seemed to always be having the most fun!


    Anyway, I picked up a much loved and excellently cared for Ibanez SR505 5 string bass... for a price I couldn't really pass up! The price alone for the instrument was keen... but the slightly used warwick hardcase in the deal aswell made it a very very good buy. (I love top muso uni students who need money!) :grin:


    Anyway, I've already overplayed the bugger and my left hand is hurting... so I gotta give it a rest, but at least the frett buzzing has cut by half in the few days I've had her. Yay!


    So, if you've clicked in, then you either know something about basses or are a muso, so please cast your views on Ibanez and/or any hard won beginner tips you'd care to share here. :)

    Lessons are in the pipeline with a respected bass playing muso mate of mine (he's a funky little groover), however any other Melbourne recommendations will be gladly considered.

    I also should have it properly looked at by a tech - any recommendations in that area would be appreciated too.



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    :grin:

    Thanks for looking.

    Cheers :)



    p.s. I have a crappy Cemar brand "school band" bass (that STILL has the original 1986 strings installed :LOL: ) somewhere in the garage that has now utterly given up any hope of ever being played by me again... It's free to a good home or it's going to be donated to a local high school with a music program... or it's going to one day get used in the classic guitar smashing rock pose... whichever comes first. :LOL:
     
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  2. hmmm, Im thinking about taking up guitar lessons again, is bass easier?
     
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  3. Ibanez are a pretty good bass mate. Though it might pay to take the guitar into a muso shop and have them check the necks curvature, the harmonics and the rest- there's no need for a heavy action over the fretts.
    I'll just post a pic of my (other) baby. I've been with the upper range yammys for a while- though I bought my custom TRB6II a few years ago...
    pics002.
    Happy playing- Funk and fusion is the way to go!! :cool:
     
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  4. Congrats Rob! I've got an SRX505 myself, but have neglected it in favour of my other Ibanez (K-7) lately. Still, it's good fun.

    ... I just couldn't resist posting this here for some reason :p

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  5. they're two completely different instuments and one is NOT easier than the other.

    A lot of guitarists will tell you 'bass is easy you just play root notes, piece of piss'

    but

    a good bassist will have incredible rhythm to the point where they keep the drummer in time, and will be able to improvise their pants off.

    If you don't have a good sense of rhythm, don't play bass.

    Now to Rob - nice bass man. Def take it to a guitar/bass specialist & get the neck & harmonics & action done, as well as get the electrics checked out for dust etc.

    if you're going to be slapping, slap bassists usually have a higher action so make sure you convey your intentions to the shop when you take it in.

    your post has reminded me i want a wireless kit for my guitars....
     
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  6. #6 MacManMike, Mar 12, 2008
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  7. Well done Rob! :grin: Ibanez make an excellent bass so there's no worries there! I can't play bass for sh*t but I'm happy to have a look at it for you and check over the basics (neck, intonation etc) if you like. It's been a while, but I did quite a bit of guitar tech work in my V early 20's :LOL:
     
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  8. Very nice Rob. Do you have an amp? I like the Ibanez stuff, I have a very old Ibanez Les Paul, which I think sounds great.

    If you feel like a jam some time let me know, I have a couple of amps.
     
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  9. That's cool Rob :)

    I've just started getting bass lessons (first lesson was last Sunday) and I'm really enjoying it. I've always wanted to play an instrument but never followed through, this time I'm going to try my hardest to keep at it. Since Sunday I've already learnt a song, yay!!

    Have you had lessons or are you self taught?

    I know what you mean about a sore left wrist/arm/fingers - it's a good sign though :grin:

    Cheers
    Starlet
     
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  10. Nice one Rob! Looks sweet. I always thought if I was going to branch out from vox and drums it'd be bass for me. It's got all the rhythm aspects of playing a drum kit, plus the ability to colour all the chords from underneath. A creative bassist is a great thing to watch; Evripedes Evripidou (from on the Virg) comes to mind as a local guy who always knocked my socks off, although his stuff is getting a bit 'dolphin healing music' these days.
     
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  11. i know nothing about guitars other than the bassist is always the coolest guy in the band - so it should suit you down to a tee.

    congrats on your new baby - i wish you much happiness and success with it.

    can you carry it on your bike??
     
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  12. Lookin' good, Rob!

    24 frets and a nice cutaway so you can use them all for your wicked bass solos :grin:

    If I might make a suggestion for when you start lessons with this friend:
    1st lesson should be how to tune the bass, with a guitar tuner is fine BUT also how to do it with a tuning fork, to perfect orchestra pitch.
    PLUS tune the octave [12-24 frets], coz they can be close but slightly out... to tune a bass properly you do it at both ends :eek:
    If you have time, also put new strings on - for your own knowledge of how to do it.

    Those are the basics every bass player should know before actually playing the thing.

    Bonus suggestions:
    - A minor or 7th chord progression is good to practice for building finger strength... especially in your pinky!
    - leave your bass next to the couch when you're watching TV so you can play/muck around with it during ad breaks or whatever - good for building finger strength.
    - learn a song or two all the way through, and find a mate who plays guitar or something else who you can jam with. Bass isn't a great stand-alone instrument to just play, it really needs to be played with something else - you will improve a LOT faster if you're playing with other instruments too.
     
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  13. nice bass
    i bought one in a maple colour a few years ago and it is the best bass i own.
    just watch the head stock as mine split somehow there is a lot o tension there.
    try a hybrid string set billy sheehan does one heavy bottom light to perfect for slapping.
    Jade make some good amps localy if you want affordable and good sound.
     
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  14. Taa guys. :)

    Thanks for the tips and appreciated well wishes. :)


    Top tips ktulu - I've managed to suss out tuning via a tuner, hearing the open note against a reference, tuning the top sting then the rest from the 5th fret and also the harmonic tuning (7th fret IIRC - learned it last night). I didn't really think about the octave tuning - to be frank, I haven't even looked at the screws on the bridge yet and what they do. They look scary :eek:hno: :grin:


    Port I may take you up on that offer when I get some chops. :LOL:


    Dougz, Thanks for the offer man. I may very well draw upon your tech abilities. :)


    My background is keyboards - so thankfully that gives me a leg up, plus I've mucked around from time to time with clumsy walking lines on friends basses or my own crappy school hand me down... so I have some rudiments... but I'm very much looking forward to some proper lessons though.



    I will get this bass to a tech, the volume pot is scratchy up the top (a clear sign it's never really at max volume - prolly liveable for the time being) and the action on the B string is much higher than the rest - which probably reflects the previous owners style. Even though it's just about in as new condition, it should really have a good once over by a tech - just to be sure. Is there such thing as a "bass check up"?

    The previous muso was a stickler. He had it from new (one of three basses he owned) and he oiled it every string change and in between as well. There's hardly a mark on it :) ...poor guy, he was sad to see it go.


    I don't have a bass amp yet, but the keyboard amp will do for the time being... I'm sure an amp wont be far away though...




    A general question for you bass dudes/dudettes, in terms of storing the instrument in between plays, is it better to keep it in on a stand or in it's case?? Or in it's case standing up??



    Carri... I don't think I'll be able to carry it safely on my bike :( I'm resigning myself to having to cage it through western ring road evening peak traffic to get to my mates house :eek:hno: ...I'll just have to buck up! LOL


    Apparently Stanley Clark is touring soon - so I'm keeping an eye out for details, I'll also keep an eye out for the other names mentioned in the thread... the only Wooten I was aware of was the ex editor of AMCN :LOL: Thanks for the heads up.


    Hey Starlet, congrats on you taking the plunge too. Chick bass players are way cool :cool: Look forward to progress reports!


    LMAO at the cartoon... poor deluded soul!


    Kirk / Tils, you might get PM's from time to time, hope you experienced guys don't mind. By the way, Tils, 6 strings?! What's are the open string notes?
     
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  15. They raise/lower 'the action' (the action is the distance between the strings and the fret-board) which does the following:

    - makes it easier or harder to play [obviously the further away the strings are, the stronger you need to be to push them down on the frets].
    You may lower the action to make it easier to play, but if the string buzzes on the next fret or two this side of the one you're playing, it's too low.
    Or you may raise it to build better finger strength and stamina.

    - changes the upper octave tuning [and the lower one too, you have to balance them both]. You can do this with a guitar tuner: play open string, play with 12th fret closed - the note should be the same, tweak both ends until this is true [lower end is more critical to have accurate though, if you can't get it perfect].
     
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  16. get some conact cleaner from dick smith in a aerosol can and give the pot a good squirt.
    there will be a lubricating hole or three visable after you remove the backing plate.
    the screws on the bridge are for intonation.
    play the harmonic on the 12 fret and then the open note of thet string they should be in tune.
    the allen keys on each post will change the hight a little but are more used for getting the right feel with the curviture of the fretboard.
    if it feels to high then try removing the neck and slipping in a bussiness card or 2 between the neck and the body then reattach. loosen the strings first :)
    you will need to tune the bass a lot to do the set up so use a440 on the keyboard as the note to reference the third thickest string (a) or buy a tuner.
    let me know if you need a hand on anything
     
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  17. they also allow you to set the intonation
     
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  18. I've got a feeling that's what Ktulu was saying, just in (much) more complicated words. :grin:

    Nice lookin' bass Rob! I haven't played much bass in a long time (ever since I switched to guitar :p), but the guys who can do it well are awesome. Keep practicing!
     
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  19. A lot of his studio stuff is total self indulgent w@nk, but his virtuosity cannot be disputed.

    I just wish Brown Hornet were still playing, and I had the ears that Les Claypool took from me when Primus toured here in 1994. My ears were NEVER the same after that gig!

    You'll have a ball.
     
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  20. Awwwrighty then! :) I'm armed with some info and probably dangerous! :LOL:

    Regarding intonation, we are talking about moving the bridge slidy bits back/forth as required, yes?



    I'll be dropping into Dick Smith's for some pot cleaner... I could probably use it on some other gear that I have with scratchy sliders.


    Also, what about the storage question? In a case or on a stand? There seems to be two schools of thought... :-k My mate has a preference for stands...

    :cool:
     
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