i am still coming ot terms with this as it could have been a fatal error. it would have been on my head..... this is the background. we had yesterday booked to take our 2 cruisers for a club ride to Clare, via various scenic stops. its a 300km round trip. my son wanted to sit on back of my mbike. i told him to be at our place, with helmet at a set time, so we could meet the group at start spot. instead, he rolled up midnight, after a 400km round trip to MORGAN on saturday, to do trail bike riding all day. he was already knackered when he rolled up, WITHOUT the helmet. now instead of getting up at reaonable time and just hopping on back of the mbike, he now had to wake up at 6.00am to do a 90km round trip back to his home to get his helmet. i told him that he was in danger as he would be too tired as it was going to be hours on back of a mbike at 110 kph. he insisted on coming along. well after 5 hours....we were heading home, by this time in the rain, we were about 40kms out of clare when i felt his body slump onto me. WTF do you do at 110kph in the wet in this situation? what if he slumped backwards? he was only slumped for a few seconds but i got the guilt of knowing that i could have killed my son because i let him come along, KNOWING he was knackered.