There is no back pedal at all ... I have NEVER said it was a blind, absolute requirement .. that was your take on a simple statement of what is, and will be, taught to in pre-learner and licencing courses in all other jurisdictions in Australia. I have no doubt Victoria will also be on-board with it's soon to be introduced best practice course. Your observations about the roadcraft content of pre-learner and P licence courses is somewhat misinformed as roadcraft actually is a large part of the presentation. Any accredited trainer and those involved in course development and governance are aware of this. The basics are outlined and reinforced at each step along the way. Sure a noob may not be 'expert' but then we don't expect them to be 'expert' at any of the skills initially. As for noobs being "a bit lost", as you put it, about advanced roadcraft I can assure you that even so-called experienced riders are also 'lost' and barely comprehend traffic strategies which is sadly reflected in fatality stats. But one does have to start somewhere and at the very beginning of someone's riding career is the best place to do so. Oh and you are quite wrong in your assumption about which Duncan I was referring to ;-) Duncan MacKillop (of SMIDSY fame) is not involved in any way with the development of the Victorian licencing material although I'm sure he will have plenty of comments when information about it is discussed amongst trainers I do hope that when the new course is implemented that riders can expect positive support from you as the VMC chair and the other executive members.