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Review: Motolegion Jeans By Rhok - A Disappointment

Discussion in 'Pants' at netrider.net.au started by Shibboleth, Nov 9, 2012.

  1. Introduction

    Motolegion are a brand of jeans designed by Australian brand RHOK. I recently purchased a pair, and this is my review of them.

    For the purposes of this review, I'll be comparing the jeans against some work-issued jeans that I have - some King Gee jeans.

    King Gee's (left), RHOK (right)​

    Ordering and Delivery

    Ordering was very simple from the RHOK website, though the website seemed confused as to how much the jeans were - the page said $145, but the Paypal checkout said $146.

    Once I placed my order, I waited for 11 days, with no jeans in sight. I sent off an email, and was quickly replied to by Marinko. They were out of stock, but had forgotten to let me know. They said that they would ship the jeans in a couple of weeks. A couple of days later, however, I received another email, saying the jeans had been mailed, but they had probably sent the wrong size.

    When the jeans arrived, they were indeed the wrong size. Marinko was very apologetic, and immediately sent up the correct size jeans, and a pre-paid express post satchel to send the wrong jeans back.

    First Impressions

    My first impression of the jeans was how thin the material was! I was expecting a very heavy, thick denim, but the denim felt a lot thinner and flexible to my fingers than the King Gee's. A measurement with my micrometer confirmed by suspicions - the RHOK's measured at 0.77mm vs the King Gee's at 0.93mm. This obviously doesn't matter from a protection standpoint, as the Kevlar does the protecting, not the denim, but the jeans may not last as long as I'd hoped.

    What the jeans lack in thickness, they definitely make up for in weight. The King Gee's weigh in at 804 grams on the scale, the RHOK's are 1.10kg! I don't know where the weight comes from - probably the kevlar panels, and the huge amount of thread which has gone into stitching these jeans together.

    The stitching is very heavy duty. I'll comment more on it later.


    The jeans are not subtle at all. Red stitching all around, and a giant logo on your ass. If there was one aspect of the style of the jeans that I could live without, it's the logo. Given that I usually wear work-issued jeans most of the time, and these come with the corporate logo on the back, I'm not totally adverse to this idea. However, the sheer size of the logo is off-putting.

    Giant Ass Logo​
    Some of the panels, such as above the knee, and the seat also come pre-distressed. The 'blue' colour is also very dark. While not black it's definitely on the 'navy' side of blue.


    Distressed panels​


    The jeans are quite long, about 1cm longer than the 87R King Gee's, which are a very traditional 501's - style cut.

    They're also quite wide at the boot. You'll have no trouble at all fitting these over your Sidi race boots. Each leg averages about 1cm wider when laid flat.

    Width and colour difference between the two jeans.​

    The belt loops are a little bit narrow in length. My belt just squeezes through.


    The stitching is extremely heavy-duty. All of the important seams are triple-stitched. One area of concern is that all the stitching is external, and doesn't have the 'two under, one over' style that is found on other jeans - like the King Gee's. This raises a slight concern that in a bad slide the stitching may possibly wear through, though this seems highly unlikely, given the strength of the stitching.

    Ultra-heavy-duty stitching​
    Internal Stitching, RHOK's​
    Internal Stitching, King Gee's​

    Each stitch has a massive amount of thread going through it. I'd like to know just what percentage of the weight of the jeans is made up of thread!


    On the bike - When on the bike, the jeans are perfectly comfortable, and don't get in the way at all. However, I found that one of the seams appears to settle right on the inside of my knee, which is uncomfortable when hugging the tank. When I sit on the bike, I need to spend a second to make sure that the leg is rotated so that the seam is out of the way.

    Off the bike, the jeans are surprising uncomfortable. The main culprit is the velcro panels inside the knee pockets. Because they face towards the outside of the jeans, the velcro strip basically sits against your leg, tempered only by the thin mesh material. The sharp edges (especially the corners) of the strip poke through the mesh, and onto your leg.

    This isn't unbearably uncomfortable, but it's pretty much continuously noticeable. I'm hoping that they soften up with wear and washing.

    The Kevlar panels themselves are completely comfortable. You won't even notice that they're there.
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  2. Part 2:


    The Kevlar protection is excellent, huge panels of kevlar weave covering all parts which are likely to slide along the ground in an accident. All the panels are the same size as the denim panels, and stitch into the same seams.

    The hard protectors are highly weird, when compared to my other pair of riding pants (Motoline textiles). They are a standard 'hard plastic over breathable foam' style of protector. The knee protectors are a standard shape.

    The shape of the hip protector, however, seems all wrong. They look like they have come out of a jacket, not a pair of pants. For comparison:


    This is a side-by-side with the knee / elbow-forearm protectors from my Spidi jacket next to the shoulder / hip protectors from the jeans. The shoulder / hip protectors are nearly identical in shape.

    Perfectly fitting 'hip' protector​

    When the hip protectors are in place, it makes you look like you're wearing jodhpurs - it gives you fantastically wide hips. The protectors just stand out from your body, and don't conform at all. There is a good centimetre of air from your body to the protector in the middle of the hump.

    By comparison, here's the hip protector from my Motoline textile pants.

    One of these is designed for human hips.​

    The knee protectors can be inserted and removed through cleverly designed hidden zips below the knee.

    The knee protectors go into mesh pockets that have 'hook' velcro on the bottom of the pocket. In addition to causing the comfort issues mentioned above, they also destroy the pocket itself. Every time you open the pocket, the hooks on the velcro tear at the mesh, which in my case is already starting to fuzz up from the abuse.

    Knee pocket with Vecro 'hook' side up​

    The knee protector pockets are massive in the 'up' direction - they go halfway up my thigh. However, they're not long enough in the 'down' direction. When I fit the pads so that they're comfortable with a bent knee, the pads stick out the bottom of the pocket, so that the pocket can't be done up! This is an epic flaw in the design.



    They fit just fine if I rotate them 180 degrees, but I think they were meant to protect the shin, not the thigh. At this point in time, they're just not usable. I'm going to either have to cut the knee protector with a Dremel tool (not a generally good idea, since it'll leave some sharp edges), or buy a more standard foam protector and cut it to shape.


    I bought these jeans hoping to ride them to work every day, to pop out the knee pads, and then work all day. As it stands, I can't see myself doing that.

    The knee pads are too difficult and time-consuming to put in. The hooks on the velcro also tear up the mesh extremely rapidly. Taking the protectors out once or twice a day is going to destroy the mesh in very short order.

    I have two options - ride to work with the protectors in, then change to a different pair of pants. If that's the case, I may as well wear a pair of waterproof textile pants. My second option is to ride without the protectors in place. That's the option I'm taking at the moment, though riding without knee protectors is a concern.

    The style and cut of the jeans seems aimed at a younger market segment. This is not a bad thing, but something to be aware of if you're interested in purchasing these jeans.

    Overall, I'm disappointed in the jeans. They're not as good as I was hoping for, in comfort and practicability. I honestly can't see myself buying another pair of these jeans, unless some of the recommended changes below are made.


    Please note, that these recommendations are only based on my personal experience and tastes - YMMV. These are in order of my preference.

    1. Fix the knee pad pockets or protectors, so that they actually match each other in size.

    2. Remove the 'hook' velcro on the inside of the mesh pocket. Replace it with 'loop' velcro on the top side of the mesh pocket, then allow the owner to decide if they want to attach the 'hook' side to the protector.

    3. Have a hip protector that is actually designed for human hips.

    4. Have a second 'subtle' jeans style, for those who don't want a giant logo on their ass.

    5. Have a jeans style that has a more traditional tapered leg cut.

    6. Make the belt loops about 3mm longer.
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  3. Nice review, can't wait to see how this thread pans out...:whistle:
  4. Good honest review. Thanks.

    I suppose it might come down to the old saying of "you get what you pay for". Given they are quite a bit cheaper than Draggin Jeans I wonder if you can expect the same quality.

    Mind you, style is a personal choice.
  5. Isn't motolegion a forum member? Name sounds familiar.

    Food for thought if that's the case.

    Good review.

  6. Yes he is. Takamii.

    I think its great to see an opposing viewpoint as opposed to all the usual fawning posts.
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  7. All of the kevlar jeans I've seen have been make of really thin, poor quality denim. At least the Motolegions are $100 less than most others. I'd be happy to pay top dollar for some high quality kevlar jeans but can't find any, the Dainese D1 model looks good but my size is out of stock everywhere and Dainese aren't making any more until next month.
  8. Op,

    Pricing comparison please.

    If I was a rider, I'd be paying the $100 extra to get something which is more comfortable, practical and will last longer as well.

  9. I have several pairs of Motolegion/RHOK jeans, and share the OP's opinion on the velcro etc in the later ones. Ironically the "prototype" pair I won in an early promotion are my favourites...
    I have also reported said concerns to the staff at RHOK industries, which I've mentioned in more than one review thread here...
  10. I've had about every brand there is, including several not available in Aus.

    Sartso seem to be the best quality
  11. Solid review :)

    I haven't had an issue with the hip protectors however had to trip down the bottom foam part of the knee protectors - unfortunately not an option for you based on review and pics which is an absolute pain. The pockets could do with some lengthening down

    Word of warning, these get warm as the Kevlar is pretty thick so if you run hot naturally you will sweat a bit during hot days. The velcro for the knee protectors is definitely a pain at first as is the entire process but that becomes a bit easier over time, though i only remove them to wash the pants and leave them in on Fridays (have to wear professional attire all other days take a change of pants).
  12. Just checking my black pair under my desk now - what's the g.o with the knee pads on those jeans!? Mine are great but the pads are fitted INSIDE the leg, not outside.....(I have 4 pairs of these no issues). So I certainly don't suffer from that prb.

    I wore a pair of Levi jeans on the bike today due to bike and clothing being in 2 different locations. I noted that the inner (knee) seam of the levi's joined right where I hug the tank to, similar to the note about the RHOK jeans....thinking about it I think this would almost be stock across most jeans.
  13. Wow. That was one in-depth review. Thanks for it! :p
  14. I think that you're right - the seam sits there on nearly all jeans. I think that the problem is exacerbated on the Motolegions due to the seams being substantially thicker due to the extra layers of material and stitching.
  15. You're welcome. And thanks for all the other good comments that everyone else had made as well.

    As for the in-depth nature, I definitely got a bit carried away. I was pretty surprised when I hit 1000 words and still had a lot to say! The final version was a bit over 1500 words long.
  16. Great review, it is nice to see some thought out feedback on a product, particularly protective jeans.
  17. You could actually review products for bike magazines and make some money out of it as well. :)

    What you wrote was in-depth, informative, well written and above all interesting.
  18. How did you find Spidi jeans?
  19. Just to add, when ordering you must go up at least one size from your regular jeans. The RHOK jeans sit significantly higher on the waist than any other regular jeans or riding wear I have.
    You sort of end up with a bit of a harry high pants look. Comfort etc I can't comment as mine don't fit, so sit in the spare room collecting dust.
  20. Good, but pricey as with most of their gear, you tend to get what you pay for though. Fit was nice, I prefer the cut of the Sartso jeans though