Ok, so I had my first stack, when I hit the deck my full face helmet took the brunt of the slide and impact right where my face is situated. As a result I'll never where a half face helmet again as I shudder to think what my beautiful face would look like now. I was looking at the full face helmets that flip up. Do they take the punishment like my old helmet took when my face was sliding on the road? I was considering the Nolan N-102 http://www.mcas.com.au/_product.php?section=1&prodid=5780, or should I stick to a full molded one? Basically, anyone know of examples or stories where the flip type one failed during a face slide?