Hi Brad, I haven't revisted this thread for some time and only read this one recently. In light of clear evidence I'm always prepared to revaluate my opinion of perceived injustice. The basis of my regard to this case was from media reports alone. However your post concerns me for the following reasons; I was aware the rider was on a vehicle outside his license class however there was no mention that his speed was a factor in the collision however it was stated that he was clearly on his side of the road at that point. The driver of the car also clearly admitted fault as in his own words "he was fiddling with the radio" when he crossed the median into the oncoming lane. The comments you raise regarding the driving history of the rider give cause that you consider anyone who has a prior history of convictions does always ride outside the law and therefore must have contributed to the collision. That if he at this particular time may have been wholey doing nothing wrong other than being there on the wrong bike is of no consequence. That being on the 1000cc bike must be a contributing factor in the collision. What manner of logic is this? I did speak to police members about this case hence my comment on their view of the sentence and yes he did plead guilty but - no custodial sentence. Are we not entitled to an opinion on what would be considered justice for killing a rider in a case where the driver pleaded guilty? My concern also is that a similar line of defense was used in the case of Luke Wilson where as his mother described of the court "a parade of blue uniforms vouching for the officer involved occured before the defense tore apart my son's credibility with lines like the bike was in an "overserviced" condition as it had new tyres". That he may have been a conscientious rider on a maticulously maintained vehilce (obviously his pride and joy) meant that somehow, other than just being there that day, he contributed to the collision. Again, there was no reference to the speed he had been travelling in any reports. I concur with sticking to the facts and as I have written before, if I find something I have written that is in error I will endeavour to correct this as soon as I am made aware of it. How the legal system works is part of this topic and I am all ears to hear of and learn more about it. Otherwise, I am yet to read of anything to change my mind that there are injustices happening for which collectively we need to make a change.