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Pushie riders getting VERY sneaky

Discussion in 'The Pub' at netrider.net.au started by CrazyCam, Feb 2, 2016.

  1. I saw this on the ABC News:-
    UCI confirms motor found on cyclo-cross bike



    Now, I'm stuffed if I can see where this motor was hidden or how it might actually work, but I'm impressed with the level of sneakiness that it shows. :)
     
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  2. We have a couple of guys here at work that coach velodrome riders so it was a matter of intense discussion at lunch the other day. Amazing piece of skullduggery.
     
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  3. I love the reaction though "But...it wasn't my bike. It was my friends which was identical. I've done nothing wrong."

    Surely she isn't so stupid to think people will believe or care about that. Not your bike? Just happened to be setup exactly the same in every way so you couldn't tell.
     
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  4. Wouldn't these expensive as hell bikes be all customized to the rider? As if she would ride on someone elses bike. Besides she would feel the motor kick in while riding and know something is up. She is full of it, she knows she was cheating and just upset she got caught.
     
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  5. Cheating in cycling, who woulda thunk it......
     
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  6. Saw it on the news, the motor is in the water bottle on the seat post.
     
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  7. There was a clip following this story on the news of another rider that crashed in a race, and bike kept going in circles on the ground. Not a great look hey...
     
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  8. Saw that, was pretty funny, would have raised a few eyebrows from the other riders and spectators.

    I wonder how many people are using this device, surely it isn't just one.
     
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  9. I think jobs for bicycle scrutineers are going to be coming up
     
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  10. OH, OK......
    years ago, my wife conned me into buying a pushbike.....wives can be damned sneaky too.....

    First time I took it out, I saw these clippy thingies on the frame......

    Ah, sez I, they look about right for a can of beer in each! :)

    More like bloody fire extinguishers, when I actually opened one. :-(
     
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  11. i remember seeing this a year or two ago- the wheels kept spinning but the story didn't get much traction.
     
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  12. UCI officials at events now have a phone app, apparently, that when they hold it near a bike with a concealed motor, it returns an alarm.
     
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  13. I have to say I'm impressed with the water bottle motor concealment. I'm thinking about getting one. My normal comment about hobbies is 'if it hasn't got a motor i'm not interested'. But now........... lazy man's cycling and look like a keep fit fanatic, sweet as. Mrs Lionz will never know.
     
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  14. Now that they have little motors does that mean we have to nod to each other?
     
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  15. Reminds me of the ESSO slogan: Put a tiger in your tank.................
     
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  16. Yeah Just ask this guy:
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  17. I thought the rider may been deliberately "nobbled" given the amount of betting on sporting events. (For example it may have been a lesson to her and/or other riders for not complying with demands of race fixers). Then after looking at the weight of a competition cycle-cross bikes <= 8 kg I thought how could the cycle mechanic and/or a rider not notice that the bike was 1.5-2 kg heavier ( with motor and battery) than usual. Whatever the reason it has certainly been great marketing for the companies that sell the product. I want one.
     
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  18. You wouldn't need much extra power to make a significant difference. A couple of dozen extra Watts on uphill stretches would be very useful but anything more would be too obvious. Given the sort of motor and battery technology that is now cheaply available for RC model aircraft, I reckon you could build an effective illicit power unit that weighs less than 0.5 kg. My own approach would be to hide it in a seat tube or downtube of handily large diameter and contrive a drive direct to the bottom bracket. Not that I consider methods of mechanical cheating, of course ;).

    But nope, I don't believe that a rider of competitive ability would have been unable to tell that a) it wasn't their bike, b) it weighed more than it should and c) it was helping. I'm no competitive cyclist and I reckon I'd spot any of those things pretty much instantly.
     
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  19. If anyone wants one:

    vivax assist - vom Bike zum leichten E-Bike

    Sadly a bit too pricy for me. They also offer an "Invisible Performance Package" which would probably only just fool your riding mates. I would assume other manufacturers may offer a "non commercial" version for the specialist riders which are more stealthy. That is, have ceramic gears ( much quieter and lighter) and the batteries also located in the frame. Possibly also activated by micro switch under handlebar tape and/or remote control by "spectator" on the course.

    The article about the Belgian rider indicated the rider withdrew because of an unspecified mechanical problem. Why would you test a persons bike that failed to finish, unless suspecting race fixing and/or suspicious nature of the mechanical failure.

    I would think detection should be easy as the miniature motors would require powerful magnets in their innards. The commercial versions have been tested to 100-150W so must have powerful little motors. . Any device with a sensitive compass should be able to detect a magnetic variation near the motor especially if the frame was carbon fibre.
     
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  20. Nice piece of engineering - they should be banning the designer / builder rather than the rider
     
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