I've been looking for my first bike and decided I quite like the VTR250. But even second hand models often seem priced just a liiiitle bit outside my range. According to Redbook prices a 2003 model shouldn't be more than $5,800 for a private sale (presumably a bit more at a dealer). But I'm hard pushed to find any under $6k. I assume one or more of the follow reasons apply; 1. Redbook prices are wrong; 2. Prices in my particular area (Melbourne) are higher than average; 3. I'm not looking in the best spots (generally only online, eg, bikesales, bikepoint, tradingpost); 4. Listed prices have plenty of leeway. Any thoughts??? Redbook prices: http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au/mcycle/mcycles.php?make=HOND&family=VTR250 Also happy to get any other suggestions for a good value alternatives to the VTR. Would need to be a naked 250 and NOT a grey import.