Sorry this got so long... I am a couple months away from being able to get off my P's and am thinking about my next bike. I'm happy with my GPX 250 but am about to have my first child and am faced with my next work bonus (if I get it) being my last real chance to upgrade for several years. This makes me want to take advantage of the situation to get something bigger rather than being stuck with the GPX forever. Whatever I get has to last me for a long time. I've done lots of research on the web and sat on a few bikes and I seem to keep coming back to 3 very different bikes. I'd like to get new this time so I know the history and because I am going to have it for at least 5 years. I plan to do all the chain maintenance and oil changes myself and only take the bike in for tyre changes and valve maintenance when needed. I commute to and from work each day and that will be 90% of the bike's use. It is normal roads in the morning and motorway on the way home. The rest of the time I will be using the bike to run up to the shops and the occasional long ride if I can manage it. The 3 very different bikes I am looking at are: Kawasaki Ninja 650 Suzuki V-Strom 650 Triumph Bonneville SE / Kawasaki W800 The last one is actually 2 different bikes but basically the same concept. Does anyone have any real world advice on how well these bikes would suit? They are all around the same price give or take 1k. The Ninja and V-Strom are both perfect on paper while the Bonneville is a whole different thing...a lesson in simplicity. They all use about the same amount of petrol too. Even though the Bonneville doesn't have a windscreen...I've tried to stay away from naked bikes in my choices as I want the bike to be able to last me 5 years and adapt to what I need it for. I've also considered the Vamaha FZ6 and Suzuki SV650S which I may consider but I've discounted them in my mind for now for various reasons. So far without riding them it is looking like this: -Ninja Pros Great looks, ABS, windscreen, slim and agile, feel 100% comfortable sitting on it, progressing upgrade from my current parallel twin Cons Not as good for pillion, less space for luggage, no centre stand available, possibly a buzzy engine -Bonneville / W800 Pros Retro looks, comfort, no frills, pillion comfort Cons No ABS, no windscreen, not as slim for getting around traffic, very basic instrument cluster, W800 has drum brakes and tube tyres - V-Strom Pros Different look than normal retro/cruiser/sports, pillion comfort, v-twin, more space for luggage, ABS, windscreen, huge petrol tank Cons It feels HUGE!, not as slim for getting around traffic, cannot flat foot On paper if I am thinking logically...the Ninja and V-Strom are the most bang for buck and the Ninja seems to be the winner in terms of what I will ever really need. The Bonneville/W800 seem more like paying for the look. I want to like the V-Strom but when sitting on it...it seems like a pain to be on such a big bike in terms of backing it out of the garage and getting through traffic on a daily basis. Maybe this is something I would get used to. Any real world comments on these 3 bikes or any further suggestions on bikes I may have missed?