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planing my BIG 6 0 roadtrip

Discussion in 'General Motorcycling Discussion' at netrider.net.au started by nobby, Jun 6, 2010.

  1. Been mulling this over for the past 12 months or so and have decided that I want to do somethign BIG for my 60th in 2012. I don't want to jump out of a plane or climb a mountain, I don't even want to make love to a supermodel, ( well I do but it's not on my bucket list)

    What I do want to do is either;

    The TT in June combined with a road trip through the UK,

    or

    Chicago to Oklahoma along Route 66 then up to South Dakota in August for the Sturgis Rally,

    So! Which one?????

    Either one I will need to hire a bike, and both will have a similar budget.

    I need to fly to Paris afterwards to meet up with my wife, as it will also be our 40th wedding anniversary, so we will spend a couple of weeks touring around Europe by bus
    :-(
    Realistically unless the gods of lotto smile on me, I know I will probably not get the chance to complete both.

    So which one????? Sturgis and Route 66, or TT and UK?


    I know there are a few of you out there that have done the TT thing, but has anybody ridden Route 66 or attended the Sturgis rally?


     
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  2. Having recently seen a documentary on the Sturgis rally, thats got my vote.
     
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  3. watching TT now on ONE channel gets my vote, on my "TO DO" list
     
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  4. well coming from the UK and having done the isle of man I feel its a must for any biker. I have also been lucky enough to do part of route 66 but sadly not on a bike, in an audi tt. I found it a little disapointing really. However the weather is better than the UK and more reliable.
    I would also say it depends on your style of riding. If laid back cruiser is you, do 66. If you like roads with twists then UK and TT. In fact europe has some amazing roads so combine it with the paris thing.
    Anyway I used to belong to a good bunch of bikers in the UK, one of whom organizes tours through arizona and beyond on bikes so if you need any advice I know some people who may help.
     
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  5. nobby, i want to see you and your vt750 cruiser in the Dakar rally.
     
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  6. Having done neither of these, I can't speak from experience. However, if I were making the choice, I'd choose the UK one for a number of reasons. The TT has to be on every motorcyclist's bucket list for a start. The UK is very small and is packed with dozens of interesting things to see; motoring museums, motorcycle museums, etc. And distances between attractions is usually very short as well.

    The middle west of the US, however, is filled with miles and miles of nothing but miles and miles of nothing...if you get the drift.
     
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  7. Monkeyman, sadly the VT will not be coming with me on my dream ride, I'm sorta hoping she may turn into a bigger cruiser one day soon. and the Dakar on a Kidney Kruncher ....... may have to leave that to my next life.
     
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  8. Personally I'd do neither and instead ride through Scandinavia. Norway is just too beautiful for words and the roads are brilliant.

    I've done most long international rides and truly, nothing compares.
     
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  9. No contest ... go the USA route!

    Let's see ... accom is cheaper, cleaner, more modern.
    Food = cheap and plentiful
    Roads = brilliant ... there is literally something new around every bend.
    American people = friendly, welcoming
    Bikers = welcome
    Drivers = obey road rules; good lane discipline; let bikes in!

    I want to tour Tuscany and Italy by bike ... but I'd go back to the USA in a heartbeat!
     
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  10. Just playing the numbers, do the TT for the big 6-0 and then do Route 66 when your 66.
     
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  11. Agree with much of what said and I love the states but....

    Let's see ... accom is cheaper, cleaner, more modern.- Or dull soulless and boring
    Food = cheap and plentiful - I prefer quality to quantity and you crave fresh fruit and vedges after a while
    Roads = brilliant ... there is literally something new around every bend. Bend what bend, you will have square tyres before you hit a bend
     
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  12. Nice thought but if I tell my wife I want to do both, I may not live to be 66...
     
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  13. Accom: All I want is a clean room, hot clean shower and good clean bed. I found those far more often in the USA than Europe ... but your mileage may vary. My wife loves B&Bs ... I loathe 'em.

    Food: When I can get eggs, grilled tomatoes, ham steak, hash browns, toast and coffee for $4.95 in Europe, I'll rethink. I never had problems finding vegies, salads and fruit in the US, my wife almost lives on them.

    Roads: No bends? Ahhh, you need to get off the Interstates and try the "back" roads through, say, Wyoming, South Dakota, Washington State; try "Tail of the Dragon", "Lolo Pass", "Beartooth Pass", "Road to the Sun", just for starters.

    As I said, I dearly want to tour Tuscany and Italy by bike, but unless I win Lotto ... :cry:
     
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  14. Thanks mate, yeah I agree on the cost of food and choices of accomodation in the US, that's sorta why I think my touring budget would be similar, less km's in the UK, but everything else will cost me a bit more. I am leaning more and more to the Route 66 option, my ride will get more interesting when I turn off and head up towards South Dakota and the Sturgis rally, not really chasing twisties, but sweepers I love, I will be on a cruiser after all, with bedroll and spare jocks packed on the back. The US also appears to be better set up for hiring of bikes and things like touring gear like bedrolls, helmets, etc. Have even looked at the buy a bike over there and sell on completion option which can be cheaper if you can find a good honest reselling agent at the end of your ride. I am so looking forward to this, my only regret is I should have planned this trip 20yrs ago for my 40th not my 60th.
     
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  15. Nobby, we did our first (but hopefully not last) US (specifically) bike trip in 2008. A loop around the N-W states of the USA; 2115 km in about a fortnight. I have some photos up on my SmugMug web page if you're interested:

    http://biwoz.smugmug.com

    They're under "USA motorcycle tour 2008".

    Bruce
     
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  16. Bruce, if you don't mind me asking what sort of budget do you require for this sort of trip? Did you hire bikes or ship them over there?

    Pm if you would rather not post them up
     
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  17. Just a note about Route 66 - while it is mildly interesting, there are many more really interesting things in the same general region but not directly on that route. If you do it, do some research (ie. advrider.com) and be flexible about how you plot the journey.
    Utah, Arizona... downright amazing. And even California.

    Just a thought... June in the Southwest is going to be getting blistering hot in the lowlands, if that makes any difference.
     
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  18. Stewy: don't mind at all. We budgeted $200 a day while on the road and from memory undercut that on most days (my wife has the actual figures somewhere at home). No, she doesn't ... they're here in my desk drawer at work. All up, including a new rear tyre for the bike ($200) and a service ($500 :shock:), it cost us $2022 ... we were on the road 13 days with 11 actual riding days. That includes fuel and motels but doesn't include food.

    Some motels have an "American" breakfast thrown in -- this is usually "help yourself" meat patties, scrambled eggs, toast, cereal, coffee, waffles and syrup, and Danish pastries. If available, we'd have that. If not, we'd stop at a roadside diner; breakfast (full cooked breakfast) ranged from $4.95 to about $8. We'd rarely eat lunch; the ladies would have an ice-cream about 1.00, and we tried to be off the road by about 4.00 p.m. Drinks and munchies in one of the rooms; hot shower and eat out. Main meals (often Mexican) cost us about $12 to $15 a head. There are some excellent "chain" restaurants there, usually specialising in ribs and steaks.

    "Our" bike (R1150RT) belongs to my brother-in-law; he bought it for us to use (yeah, nice brother-in-law). Beware of your travel insurance if riding: it will generally only cover riding bikes up to 200cc, so shop around. We paid the US insurance ($25) on the bike for the month we were there.

    Took our own helmets and riding gear over; used a vacuum storage bag to compress all the clothes down and into one suitcase. I bought an International Driving Permit, but never needed it.

    Titus: Agreed ... we were going through Monument Valley (Utah) and Death Valley (CA) originally; however, while on the road we saw the temperatures were consistently in the high 40s Celsius, so we skipped them. That was mid-August.
     
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  19. BIWOZ - Didnt intend to offend with my comments. I was only being half serious.

    When we travelled through the states about 5 years ago we drove from the florida keys up the east coast to new york, across to chicago, on to san diego and up to washington state. Dont know how many miles it was in total all in a variety of cars, did quite a few side trips and of course part of route 66.

    We took three months and our budget was about 100 dollars a day for both of us. We delivered cars to travel, which dictated our route somewhat. You get the car and insurance free (leave small deposit) and pay for petrol only.

    We found tourist info places had voucher books for motels which gave good savings, we were paying 50 dollars tops for a double room. 98% of which were really nice, many with breakfast which was basic but free.

    Food wise California, New York, Florida and big cities, food was great but when we drove through the middle we found whilst it was plentiful and cheap, it was getting silly trying to find fresh food. Probably our ignorance in finding the right shops.

    As for bends. America has some great bike roads but the highways and routes like 66 not so good. Whilst surfaces are ok these roads are either dull or relaxing depending on your point of view.

    I plan to go back one day to ride from Alaska to Argentina so I obviously loved it.

    One thing I would guess is the states is more relaxing to ride through then the UK or europe. Which if your 2 up is worth considering.
     
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  20. Not really offended, mate. S'all good. (y)

    Mmmmm .... Alaska [/Homer] When we took the coach from Seward up to Anchorage, the driver at one point said: "I'm going to turn the PA off for the next six miles. If there are any motorcycle riders on board, you'll know why". It was six miles of magnificent left-right sweeping curves that would have been heaven on a bike. Gotta get back there.

    Also want to ride the New England coast and up into Canada during autumn, but before the real cold sets in.

    Totally agree about the Interstates -- we actually used to call them "transport stages" ... get on, open up the throttle and go.
     
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