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Parts for a SPADA? & other Qs regarding an older bike

Discussion in 'Bike Reviews, Questions and Suggestions' started by samtastic, Jul 11, 2009.

  1. hi all,
    im looking at getting either a VT250 SPADA or a VTR250 for my first bike. I prefer the design of the spada, but im worried about buying an older bike for my first bike.

    If something needed replacing, are parts still easy to come by for spadas? Also, since they're older, will it require a RWC and are these harder to get? (or do all second-hand bikes need one anyway, and it simply an assessment of what condition the bike is in, whether or not it's fit for the road?)

    Another thing, are both the VT250 and VTR push-start?

    Im seeing a fair few spadas listed between $2.5-4K. This is my general price range. They're also often listed as having between 20-60Km on the clock. This seems an unlikely low amount for a model soon celebrating its 21st (i will be too soon, perhaps i could celebrate with my very own spada).

    When it comes down to it, the main reason i prefer the spada over the VT250 is for its sexy design. Is there a chance it'll be too much work keeping the bike running (for a learner on their first bike), and i should concentrate on a VTR250 instead?

  2. I can't help with the other questions, but both bikes are electric start and have a reputation for high quality.
  3. Hey mate,

    In relation to the spada, I was looking at one a while ago now, and still would buy one if one pops up, but yea, I heard that the genuine clutch cable isnt being made anymore, but theres a way around it, and for parts, caringbah motorcycles NSW does parts apparently........ the odometer prolly only has 5 digits, so its 99,999 then back to 0 again, might have clocked over.

    I hope that kind of helps your pros/cons list for the spada vs vtr
  4. here's something i read on a different thread ( https://netrider.net.au/forums/view...days=0&postorder=asc&highlight=VT250&start=30 )

    "Tis a sweet cycle mate, The long lost siblings were the vt250, which had a huge overheating problem, hence destroying rear cylinder due do poor water flow and bad cooling fans,and the fact it hides from airflow behind the other massive cylinder, Be sure to run top quality coolant and if they have a thermo fan?? Not sure offhand but make sure the sucker never dies, Wire a switch to it if you like to operate it manually, Hell it never hurts to have too much cooling on a V Twin "

    any idea if he's referring to the SPADA, or another VT250 model? is overheating a problem on SPADAs?
  5. Lots of information on this forum, I suggest you have a good search,

    Spadas in good condition don't have any particularly nasty vices beyond age and wear these days. Honda's base 250 vtwin design was already 5+years old by the time they started using them in Spadas and they continue to use them today in vtr250s.

    Spadas are not prone to baking rear cylinders when properly maintained, I think that quote probably refers to the earlier vt250f which in Australia was sold with a fairing (poorer cooling) and were amongst the most powerful 4 stroke 250s of the time (high strung, ridden hard).

    Remember these things are at least 17+yrs old now and in Vtwin terms quite high strung (max power developed high in it's 13,500rpm range), they are pretty robust, but you should check one out more closely than you would a 5 yr old bike.

    Parts are not a serious problem, as many are shared with other Hondas
  6. Spadas were one of the highest quality bikes that Honda made - they actually proved to be as expensive to produce as a 600, which is why they were droped and the VTR that followed the Spada was actually given a lesser specification with 5 speed gearbox and a lesser quality frame.

    One major issue with a gray import Spada (and possibly even with the few that were genuine imports) is the action of the stronger sunlight on the instruments - higher intensity UV in Australia causes fade and brittleness in the speedo and tacho needles. These are very difficult to fix if they have snapped off and replacement instruments are difficult to find.

    Biggest issue isn't mechanical parts - it's front end bits since most of those in wreckers were crashed.
  7. thanks for the tip.
    *inspects SPADA dials across melbourne carefully*
  8. hi again all,
    ive found a SPADA going for a nice price, but it's without a RWC.

    Does this mean it probably hasn't been ridden or registered in a while?

    the ad says that it needs a new seat, or to be re-upholstered for RWC. Will a ripped seat really stop it from being road-worthy? it's got a rip about 5cm long, 3cm wide, at a guess.

  9. Not necessarily - it could also mean that there are a few things needing fixes before it would qualify for a rwc (pretty usual for an older bike that hasn't had a rwc for a while), and/or the person selling is too lazy to get one. If this is you first bike, both are bad signs.

    A torn seat is a roadworthy fail (see first point). Depending on who you go to, to pass it may need reupholstering (costs a bit over $100), or you may get away with a bit of gaff over the tear.

    If unsure, get an inspection done.
  10. ok i think i might pay it an inspection. but i'll take a mechanic with me.

    can anyone recommend any particular mechanics for an inspection? Im in the Kengsinton/Norht Melb/Flemington area [Melbourne]. And are there any mechanics that specialise in Hondas? would i be better chasing down such a mechanic, or would any mechanic (who knows their stuff)do the job?

  11. Have you been to see the bike by yourself yet?,

    That would be the first step, as you may be able to decide whether it is worth the effort without needing a mechanic.

    There are plenty of Spadas out there, you shouldn't need to compromise too much in what you want.

    To me, unless the bike is truly bargain priced, a badly split seat does not bode well for the bike's maintenance or general condition.

    I would say any decent bike mechanic (most would probably have seen/worked on a honda 250 vtwin by now) should be able to do an inspection on a spada, there aren't really any specific "Honda" type things to check for in that style of inspection (ie without pulling things apart).
  12. Hmmm, it's the cheapest one I've seen yet ($2100)... but you could be right, it could be a tell-tale sign that the bike hasn't been properly loved.

    Im off to Tassie for a week. When I get back, if it's still for sale, I might see if I can inspect it. And then, if I think it could still be worthwhile, I could drag a mechanic along.
  13. The price can be misleading too, by the time you factor in say $2-300 for RWC, then $400 for rego, it's already $2800......chain, sprockets would probably be next or the concrete tyres (assuming it has sat for some time
    ) if they didn't need to be replaced for rwc.

    Might be easier to let someone else have done all that crap and just buy one sorted.

    pros and cons.....can you turn a spanner? :)
  14. thanks for the words of advice.
    you're right, i don't want that much hassle for my first bike. I'll look at others that already have a RWC.

    Moving houses next week. So the motorbike hunting has been postponed for a lil bit. will keep you all posted