We're setting up the ZZR for Touring and I recently upgraded from the Ventura bag and got a H&B TC 50, Top case. Big! Big enough to take both our helmets +. At the moment, we've got Oxford soft panniers which are terrific. They hold heaps of gear but we want something a little more secure so we're looking at puting hard panniers on. I'm doing some window (monitor) shopping and I keep thinking, can they be too big? Hepco-Becker have the twin 40ltr combo for just $20 more than the twin 30ltr combo. In the future we plan on doing some longer tours of 7-14 days but for now it's pretty much just 3-4 day long weekends. So, I'm wondering. Do I need 130ltrs of storage or will it just be overkill? (I realise that I won't be fully loading the Top Case) The bike would be 160mm wider with the 40/40 compared to the 30/30. What size panniers do you have fitted to your ride and how happy are you with them? How long do you go away for with these fitted? I'm just wondering what the 'average' pannier size is for a particular time frame. i.e 2, 3,7,14 days etc. Besides the bike resembling a small car, are there other issues that I'm missing? I could use two of the 1550 Pelican cases I have and ask a mate to knock up a frame or buy the lockable kit, but it'd look shithouse on the ZZR. It's not a road/trail. Any advice I could get would be really appreciated. Cheers.