Thought I'd start a thread which is distinct to the other one debating open face helmets, and that we'd move from debate to empiricism. In your reply to this thread, please do not engage in debate, but simply state the number of accidents / offs you've had, and out of them how many would have (or did) involve hurting your face, if perchance you had been wearing an open face. You might add some concise / brief details. -Matt Me: no 'offs' / accidents on the road. (I have once fallen off on the dirt: lost the bike in greasy mud. Hit the ground with the facial part of the helmet, but with comparatively little force. Head hit the ground some tens of centimeters away from raised concrete which would have hurt!) Just to steer this away from debate, let me add that I am not by this thread attempting to imply that one therefore ought to wear a full-face instead. Some would reasonably draw that implication, some would reasonably deny that that's an implication.