Well this fourty something has finally seen the light, passed my learner's permit last weekend and picked up the scooter this afternoon! Had an interesting ride home in a blustery Melbourne northerly. Have been reading this list for about a week, and thanks to all those who have contributed to the articles and forum responses. Netrider really is a fabulous resource. Look forward to: a) leaving the gas guzzling 4WD in the driveway more often, and b) catching up with you guys over the next few weeks. cheers, Martin.