I always thought the rule was "12 months after you get your full license, you can start to carry a pillion passenger". BUT... looking up the December 2007 motorcycle riders handbook on the rta website, I found this: Before you carry passengers you must have held a motorcycle ridersâ€™ licence for at least 12 months (not including a learner rider licence). Learner and Provisional P1 riders cannot carry passengers. I'm confused. It says that a learner rider license does not count towards the 12 months you need to hold a license for. Ok, but that statement implies that other licenses (i.e. a provisional license) does count towards those 12 months (even if you cannot carry a pillion while on P's). Also, throughout the handbook, the term "riders license" seems generic. If they want to refer to a specific type of license, they will say "learners license", "provisional license", "full license". So I'm fairly certain that when they say "riders license" there, they don't specifically refer to a full license. All I can conclude from that statement in the handbook is that if I hold my provisional license for the minimum 12 months and then immediately go to the rta and upgrade it to a full license, I can carry a pillion straight away (btw - that upgrade date for me is this Friday). Have the rules around this changed? Thanks for any info anyone can give.