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NSW [NSW] Better gear up for a police enforcement reaming folks.

Discussion in 'Politics, Laws, Government & Insurance' started by robsalvv, Oct 22, 2012.

  1. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/na...rse-on-nsw-roads/story-fndo317g-1226499835876

    Bloody toll is getting worse on NSW roads
    ON January 1, traffic police made an impassioned plea to motorists to curb the carnage on NSW roads in the hope of cutting last year's toll of 364.

    But with 11 weeks to go, the 2012 death tally stands at 309 - up 33 on the same period last year - and is expected to dramatically climb in the traditional holiday season.

    Most alarming is the number of pedestrians killed this year (49) and the 19 per cent increase in fatalities involving drivers and passengers not wearing seatbelts.

    Superintendent Stuart Smith, Commander Traffic and Highway Patrol Operations, said: "There should not be such a rise, we've done enough education on wearing the damn things, and more importantly, putting a restraint on a child." Pedestrians plugged into iPhones and other electronic devices are suspected to be behind an almost 30 per cent increase in pedestrian deaths on NSW roads so far this year.

    "We have run a pedestrian operation with the motorcycle response team and spoken with pedestrians with iPhones and iPods," Supt Smith said.

    The Pedestrian Council of Australia recently launched a safety awareness campaign in response to an epidemic of pedestrians using mobile devices when crossing the road. PCA president Harold Scruby said people were distracted when plugged into electronics and did not realise they were eliminating their ability to assess danger. "You're taking out more than just one of your senses, not just the ears but your ability to look and think is affected as well," Mr Scruby said.

    While drivers made up close to half of all those killed in fatal crashes in 2011 and 2012, there has been a 30 per cent increase in motorcycle fatalities as well - 52 motorcyclists compared to 40 to October 19 in 2011. The number of motorcycle registrations has grown five per cent per year in the past few years, with more than 180,000 motorcycles now on NSW roads.

    "The year-on-year growth is partly to counter traffic congestion but a lot of motorcyclists are dying on weekend joy rides where speed and ability are factors," Supt Smith said.Fatalities are also up in the older age group of 60 to 69 and in the younger age group of 17 to 20 years police said.

    Police said they were launching significant operations this summer to counter the road toll.

  2. while any death is a tragedy, how quickly everyone has forgotten that last year had one of the lowest totals on record. This years figures are only regressing to the average.

    from the RTA web site
    so 12 more motorcycle fatalities than last year is only 3 more than 2010
    49 pedestrian deaths is still lower than 2010
    I don't know what the base number is, but a 19% increase in fatalities due to not wearing seatbelts could be as low as one crash!

    the trend is still clearly downward, but yet again we have to have a massive response to a spike. What's the betting that they'll claim credit for any reduction even though it's likely to be statistical.
  3. Advanced training for all....
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  4. Basic Training for all it would seem ... nothing "advanced" needed !=D>
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  5. We already have that.

    Maybe they just need to include target fixation in the Ps course.
  6. Maybe they should start fining people using their phones while crossing the road.
  7. No, I think they should mandate pedestrians wear flouro gear ;)
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  8. If they can add failure to headcheck an instant fail for the car test.
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  9. Pedestrians should have a man walking in front of them with a red flag...
  10. That would be funny if it weren't true. Ah, the wonders of mobile communications...
  11. Questionable stats. Deaths are up only 12. This may be 30% but its still a relatively small number and is not a trend. Numbers are way too small for any meaningful analysis.
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  12. Harold Scruby at it again. This clown has been quiet for a while now, so not surprised he is in the ear of the policy makers again.
  13. Position justification. I await the day that the universe says enough is enough and in an ironic twist he gets run over by a school bus full of kittens.
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  14. Not many riders seem to do shoulder checks either these days ..
  15. What part of the ped council initiative in the op do you disagree with? It seems to be only targetting peds.
  16. They should have to get registration too
  17. This is the problem I have with road death statistics in general, not just bikes.

    How many millions of road journeys are made in Australia each year?

    Let's say 14 M drivers x 10 trips per week times 52 weeks per year. That's 7.3 BILLION road trips and I think that is conservative.

    Yet our national death toll is around 1500?

    It's a statistical blip. So all of the effort they put in trying to prevent road deaths is to control a statistical blip. It's always going to be like herding cats.

    The road toll has trended up in recent years. If we are going to use this blip as a driver, then surely this shows that ever decreasing speed limits and draconian enforcement of them, has reached the limit of its effectiveness.
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  18. Do some background work on old Harold it will be apparent soon enough, he is pro speed camera, undercover police and speed limit dropping at all points.
  19. He has changed that in the op hough