I will try and keep this short , I had a thread recently about finding an alternative to draggin and everyone was super helpful https://netrider.net.au/threads/draggin-jeans-alternative.138752/ I find the above \ below knee seams very ugly on draggin, i also find the price to be a bit harsh ~$290 I found myself not wearing my pair, id be going out and want to wear a nice looking pair of jeans over safety , and this is bad here I was wearing a decent jacket, gloves, tall racing boots, i knew i was doing something wrong , I have also been told if you have a crash the best skin graphs they can take come from your legs\ass (e.g. to fix up your face or some other part) -- cut to the chase , one option was kevlar leggings (you wear them under standard jeans) , which draggin do make and sounded great , ill probably also pick a pair of these up to try at some point too. http://www.dragginjeans.net/Mens/K-Legs/K-Legs/flypage.tpl.html At the melbourne bike expo last week they had 100$ fully lined kevlar jeans starider.com.au (vic company) now dont get me wrong , these things are not the quality of draggin, but i do believe they offer better protection than jeans\slacks\nothing (and i think a high % of people wear no leg protection) the big bonus is they are fully lined so there is no seam downside : like draggin the sizing seemed a little off like they dont take the lining into account , i had to buy one size larger which was huge on me :0( the kevlar and overall quality is not as good as draggin (no doubt) if you can wear draggin all the time go with them or better, this is for those of us who dont wear protection for whatever reason. Ive been told and i believe it states it on the draggin site you can not have kevlar jeans altered , to that i say : original sewing on the left tailor on the right - Louis Tailor 301 Coventry Street , south melbourne (this guy ive known since i was a kid and my dad used him, your local tailor should be able to help you too but if your around south melbourne use him) - Great guy, he has done this for my draggin before , this time he broke 2 needles sewing them , so the kevlar cant be total crap and like i said this is more for people wearing nothing , i think this or draggin leggings would be better than nothing . Now although i need to have them taken up another inch or so , these i can wear out , and i love not having any weird seams , should last me 2-3 years , cost me $160 all up, fit like a glove, and a lot less than $290, also once i get them taken up another inch i would wear these out even when not on the bike i think they look decent. ~random rant , please dont take this as me preaching , i was wearing nothing and i think this is better than nothing , if you choose to not wear anything thats all good too.