Next weekend I'll graduate to my open license, I'm doing the QRide on the day I become eligible . As much as I enjoy the CB400, and I certainly don't ride it to it's limits, I am looking to upgrade to something a little larger and more comfortable. I'm 6ft about 110kgs (ex rugby prop), I ride most days (commuting) and weekends. I don't carve up roads but I do like a bike that holds a line well and drives out of corners (so a V Twin really). I probably prefer naked bikes but with the commuting a fairing is probably a better options. With a little one on the way I won't be doing rides longer than about 4 hours for a while (6 years at a guess). Obviously I'll be test riding what I can and I have ridden a few mates bikes, sat on everything. Being in Cairns test ride options are a little limited. Lastly (again with the little one arriving soon) my budget is around 10k - 12k. I'm chasing some opinions on the following bikes (which I think fit my needs): - New Bikes CB(R)650F(R); I like Honda's (shame) and it should be a reliable bike. I find the bike large enough to be comfortable, not sure about another i4 Z800; A bit more exciting than the CB650 and something I've read good thins about. I am aware of the weight but it isn't a huge issue given my size. DL650 Vstrom; I can flat foot it, haven't ridden it but it seems to be a good option and is a V Twin MT09; I've ridden it and I don't really enjoy with stock suspension. The arse squats and the front is poorly controlled over rough roads (we have plenty). Ninja650; On this list because it's a twin, seems ok comfort wise and while cheap the suspension doesn't pogo me into the woods. Shiver, DL1000, Tiger 800 and VFR800 discounted due to price (around 15k on the road) or no local dealer and price. I can test the CBR650, Z800 and MT09 locally and will. I'm looking at demos as well but they would mostly be outside of Cairns. Second Hand Second hand means buying something from outside of Cairns. VFR800; A bike I've always liked and thought about owning one since the VFR750. Prices vary but from 6k to 10k will get bikes from 2004/5, 50,000k to 2012, 28,000k. CBR1100XX; Another bike I've always liked although probably a bit much unless I'm doing more kilometres. Priced between 6 and 8k. I'm leaning towards either the VFR800 or the DL 650. If I go with the VFR800 I'd aim for the older bikes and leave more for the family. Thoughts? Opinions? you went to sleep half way and didn't make it this far? I would really appreciate people's experiences with any of these bikes to add to the deliberations.