i have been riding for near 10 years started out on dirt bikes on my cousins farms and moved to road about 4 years ago and the one thing i have learnt is that you do not stop at a set of lights in the middle of the road. as i was on my way to work to night there was a squid on some suzuki thing being a tools weving in an out of traffic only to end up in front of me at the lights anyway and he stoped right in the middle of the lane. anyway we were behind a big old 4x4 and as we took of he hit some oil and bang was on his arse. so i got off and helped him up and got talking to him and he didn't know what he did wrong. to me this seems like basic knowledge when you are on a bike as oil + 2 wheels makes for bad things. is it just me or is this something basic that is taught when you are learning?