I went for a test ride on a VTR250 yesterday. felt gooooood The dealer I was talking to was indicating that the 250's have no money in them when sold new. Something like an 8% margin. This of course leaves no room for negotiating a discount. Im not sure how true that was and how much of a "don't bother asking for a discount" line it was. I am going to do a ring around soon but am curious. Has anyone out there got a good price on a new VTR250? retail on road is $8,5?? whats the cheapest someone has got one for? Sorry if this is the wrong section for this thread.