Hey guys, Been lurking around for a few weeks, reading up and felt dirty not introducing myself. I'm a new rider, but have had some bikes before (20 years ago). I'm booked in to get my Ls this weekend and looking at all types of bikes. As I've ridden before (cb250 and cbr1000 plus some ag bikes) and I'm a big bastard now, I'm looking at a full size lams bike. Have narrowed it down to 3: Ninja 650rl (have a great deal on offer on a new one...plus they are offering $1k cash back at the moment. Gpx650fu... Like the 4 cylinders.... But it's heavy Gs500f... Old tried and tested Just wondering people's thoughts on the value of a new bike as opposed to second hand. There is not a lot of savings to be had from the second hand ones when you factor in ORC and the value of the warranty. Having only bought cars for the past 20 years, I just find it hard to save as little as $1k and get second hand. The biggest savings I'm seeing is on the GS, but 3-4 year old bikes selling for $4-5k plus ORC with 10-15k km on the clock when I can ride away on a brand new one for $7k doesn't make sense.....if I have the spare cash. Thoughts?? I'm also looking forward to attending some of your rides and learning loads.